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Post by kuatorises on Jan 16, 2024 23:13:50 GMT
What is your proof he's committed crimes.
Where’s your proof of the crimes Trump committed over the ones Biden Administration has commited? Linking me news articles isn’t proof. He's literally on trial and you're deflecting to try and pivot from the fact you have no proof of your claims. You do this all the time.
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Post by dlancer on Jan 16, 2024 23:19:43 GMT
Ain't anyone's job to prove a negative homie. Burden of proof is always on the positive claim. Except my op question is going by the assumption that Biden Admin is just as criminal as what Trump is alleged to be, but Trump gets the blame and Biden is exonerated. Who is actually going to convict Trump, apart from libtard media zombies? A judge and jury have the potential to convict Trump assuming he doesn't flee the country.
The right ONLY has media zombies to "convict" Biden. They have no intention of actually trying him in court.
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Post by ayatollah on Jan 17, 2024 0:14:41 GMT
You describe influence correctly, but if you trade that to benefit you personally or politically it's corruption and it's wrong, it's not what the powers of any government office are for. I never claimed it wasn't wrong. I never claimed it wasn't corruption. I said it wasn't illegal. I said that politicians do it all the time. I said that the entire lobbying industry is based on it. I'm assuming since you didn't mention the Trump parts at all you were able to see the difference. The only difference is you like one of them, dislike the other.
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Post by mikemonger on Jan 17, 2024 1:20:55 GMT
I never claimed it wasn't wrong. I never claimed it wasn't corruption. I said it wasn't illegal. I said that politicians do it all the time. I said that the entire lobbying industry is based on it. I'm assuming since you didn't mention the Trump parts at all you were able to see the difference. The only difference is you like one of them, dislike the other. Ah. Another one who claims I'm a Biden supporter despite my repeatedly saying he has no business being president. So it's not surprising that you have absolutely no ability to discuss the topic in an intelligent fashion and can only repeat talking points. Like "you like one and dislike the other". Carry on.
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Post by dk56 on Jan 17, 2024 1:44:46 GMT
Because he’s an enemy of the state If he ran as a democrat and licked Hillary and Obama’s boots every lib here would like him.
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Jan 17, 2024 5:34:23 GMT
Where’s your proof of the crimes Trump committed over the ones Biden Administration has commited? Linking me news articles isn’t proof. He's literally on trial and you're deflecting to try and pivot from the fact you have no proof of your claims. You do this all the time. Except what’s the real reason he’s on trial for? Perhaps because of his following and own power/influence. Dems are scared. Frickin’ Pussy Assed Bitches! As for Democratic corruption, you can start with the Pandemic and the bogus vax and Ukraine. Don’t forget to look up about coke addict Hunter Biden. If Trump had turned away and not made any fuss or attempts to get reinstated, none of this Lib witch hunting would likely be happening.
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Post by ayatollah on Jan 17, 2024 11:12:16 GMT
The only difference is you like one of them, dislike the other. Ah. Another one who claims I'm a Biden supporter despite my repeatedly saying he has no business being president. So it's not surprising that you have absolutely no ability to discuss the topic in an intelligent fashion and can only repeat talking points. Like "you like one and dislike the other". Carry on. When you make policy decisions in exchange for favors, or cash, for you or your family or friends, it's influence peddling. It doesn't matter how many times you say it's not. You can't have an intelligent discussion with people who think that way.
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Post by kuatorises on Jan 17, 2024 12:51:04 GMT
He's literally on trial and you're deflecting to try and pivot from the fact you have no proof of your claims. You do this all the time. Except what’s the real reason he’s on trial for? Perhaps because of his following and own power/influence. Dems are scared. Frickin’ Pussy Assed Bitches! As for Democratic corruption, you can start with the Pandemic and the bogus vax and Ukraine. Don’t forget to look up about coke addict Hunter Biden. If Trump had turned away and not made any fuss or attempts to get reinstated, none of this Lib witch hunting would likely be happening. The pandemic started when Trump was President and Putin attacked Ukraine. I thought we were talking about evidence of something Biden did?
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Post by mikemonger on Jan 17, 2024 13:27:03 GMT
Ah. Another one who claims I'm a Biden supporter despite my repeatedly saying he has no business being president. So it's not surprising that you have absolutely no ability to discuss the topic in an intelligent fashion and can only repeat talking points. Like "you like one and dislike the other". Carry on. When you make policy decisions in exchange for favors, or cash, for you or your family or friends, it's influence peddling. It doesn't matter how many times you say it's not. You can't have an intelligent discussion with people who think that way. So "influence peddling" and "bribery" are the exact same thing, since you describe influence peddling as bribery. Then why not just say bribery?
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Jan 17, 2024 13:46:50 GMT
Except what’s the real reason he’s on trial for? Perhaps because of his following and own power/influence. Dems are scared. Frickin’ Pussy Assed Bitches! As for Democratic corruption, you can start with the Pandemic and the bogus vax and Ukraine. Don’t forget to look up about coke addict Hunter Biden. If Trump had turned away and not made any fuss or attempts to get reinstated, none of this Lib witch hunting would likely be happening. The pandemic started when Trump was President and Putin attacked Ukraine. I thought we were talking about evidence of something Biden did? Trump got blamed for the pandemic. He wasn’t saving the US, but Biden would… (rofl) Interesting how Putin was subdued when Trump was POTUS. All of a sudden when Biden replaced him, Putin decided to invade and we know the Dems had a lot to do with the 2014 coup in Ukraine when Obama was POTUS. What was he and the Biden’s up too?
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Post by ayatollah on Jan 17, 2024 13:49:28 GMT
When you make policy decisions in exchange for favors, or cash, for you or your family or friends, it's influence peddling. It doesn't matter how many times you say it's not. You can't have an intelligent discussion with people who think that way. So "influence peddling" and "bribery" are the exact same thing, since you describe influence peddling as bribery. Then why not just say bribery? Who the fuck cares what you call it? This is a step above being a spelling Nazi. It's corrupt, it's wrong, officials shouldn't use their power for self aggrandizement but strictly for the greater good of the country.
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Post by mikemonger on Jan 17, 2024 14:00:19 GMT
So "influence peddling" and "bribery" are the exact same thing, since you describe influence peddling as bribery. Then why not just say bribery? Who the fuck cares what you call it? This is a step above being a spelling Nazi. It's corrupt, it's wrong, officials shouldn't use their power for self aggrandizement but strictly for the greater good of the country. Well, normally one cares what one calls a thing because different words and phrases have different meanings. But in your case, when that's inconvenient, one equates a word or phrase with one wants it to be, instead of what it actually is. And that last sentence you wrote has no validity when coming from a Trumpbot, since you keep defending your guy for doing exactly that constantly.
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Post by merh on Jan 17, 2024 14:05:28 GMT
Biden has not been involved in over 4000 legal actions, has he?
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Post by ayatollah on Jan 17, 2024 19:18:20 GMT
Who the fuck cares what you call it? This is a step above being a spelling Nazi. It's corrupt, it's wrong, officials shouldn't use their power for self aggrandizement but strictly for the greater good of the country. Well, normally one cares what one calls a thing because different words and phrases have different meanings. But in your case, when that's inconvenient, one equates a word or phrase with one wants it to be, instead of what it actually is. And that last sentence you wrote has no validity when coming from a Trumpbot, since you keep defending your guy for doing exactly that constantly. Trading influence for favors is bribery, influence peddling, what you can it it's all the same. If you weren't mired in TDS you'd admit that and say he deserves whatever you think Trump deserves. The only thing truthful you've said is your dislike of Biden, but you have to stick by your figurehead. You'll swap him when you get a more suitable one.
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Post by mikemonger on Jan 17, 2024 19:29:17 GMT
Well, normally one cares what one calls a thing because different words and phrases have different meanings. But in your case, when that's inconvenient, one equates a word or phrase with one wants it to be, instead of what it actually is. And that last sentence you wrote has no validity when coming from a Trumpbot, since you keep defending your guy for doing exactly that constantly. Trading influence for favors is bribery, influence peddling, what you can it it's all the same. If you weren't mired in TDS you'd admit that and say he deserves whatever you think Trump deserves. The only thing truthful you've said is your dislike of Biden, but you have to stick by your figurehead. You'll swap him when you get a more suitable one. Thank you for proving my point. As I said before, if "peddling influence" were illegal, why is there an entire lobbying industry that exists for that very purpose? Let me guess. You'll evade the question with talking points. And what's funny is you're foaming at the mouth about TDS, while ignoring the fact that your guy did pretty much exactly what Biden is accused of doing when he accepted millions in free foreign cash via his DC hotel. You know, the one he sold about 5 minutes after leaving the White House? So please. Accusations of partisanship from you are just laughable. Sorry bro, but plugging the gaps in your own arguments by accusing others of bull$hit doesn't convince anybody.
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