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Post by Rufus-T on Jan 20, 2024 5:46:19 GMT
That sounds so comforting in a "Be it ever so humble" and all that kind of way, but I'll wager there are many who could follow it with a heavy sigh and a sincere, "Thank goodness." There's at least one aphorism dispensed toward the end of that film that's never sat quite right with me: "And remember, my sentimental friend, that a heart is not judged by how much you love; but by how much you are loved by others." There are too many examples of people who are loved by millions, yet are absolute scum. I get what he's trying to say; he's reminding the Scarecrow what a nice, caring guy he is. But "how much you love" is about kindness and generosity with no expectation of reward. "How much you are loved by others" is about only the reward. I'm not entirely sure about the "If I ever go looking for my heart's desire again, I won't look any farther than my own back yard" one, either. Last year, I read the Acres of Diamonds story for the first time. Very much remind me of the quote.
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Post by Pippen on Jan 20, 2024 5:57:08 GMT
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Post by Doghouse6 on Jan 20, 2024 6:13:51 GMT
The Maltese Falcon (1941) is filled with wisdom. Here is a sample: Kasper Gutman: “The best goodbyes are short. Adieu.” Sam Spade: “When a man's partner is killed, he's supposed to do something about it. It doesn't make any difference what you thought of him. He was your partner and you're supposed to do something about it. And it happens we're in the detective business. Well, when one of your organization gets killed, it's-it's bad business to let the killer get away with it, bad all around, bad for every detective everywhere.” Kasper Gutman: “Here's to plain speaking and clear understanding.” Detective Tom Polhaus: [picks up the falcon] “Heavy. What is it?” Sam Spade: “The, uh, stuff that dreams are made of.”Gutman was something of an axiomatic fountain. Some others: "I distrust a close-mouthed man. He generally picks the wrong time to talk and says the wrong things. Talking's something you can't do judiciously, unless you keep in practice."
"I'll tell you right out, I am a man who likes talking to a man who likes to talk." "I distrust a man who says 'when.' If he's got to be careful not to drink too much, it's because he's not to be trusted when he does."And there's one from Spade I think Pippen's fond of: "The cheaper the crook, the gaudier the patter."
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Post by Pippen on Jan 20, 2024 6:17:46 GMT
One more from Falcon
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Post by Pippen on Jan 20, 2024 6:20:05 GMT
This one has been used in everyday conversation
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Post by Rufus-T on Jan 20, 2024 7:17:43 GMT
This one I used a lot for myself, but don't remember saying it to the target person's face.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Jan 20, 2024 7:38:43 GMT
That sounds so comforting in a "Be it ever so humble" and all that kind of way, but I'll wager there are many who could follow it with a heavy sigh and a sincere, "Thank goodness." There's at least one aphorism dispensed toward the end of that film that's never sat quite right with me: "And remember, my sentimental friend, that a heart is not judged by how much you love; but by how much you are loved by others." There are too many examples of people who are loved by millions, yet are absolute scum. I get what he's trying to say; he's reminding the Scarecrow what a nice, caring guy he is. But "how much you love" is about kindness and generosity with no expectation of reward. "How much you are loved by others" is about only the reward. I'm not entirely sure about the "If I ever go looking for my heart's desire again, I won't look any farther than my own back yard" one, either. Last year, I read the Acres of Diamonds story for the first time. Very much remind me of the quote. I must confess I'd never heard of Russell Conwell or his Acres of Diamonds speech, so I looked it up and began reading it. I can, of course, see the connection with Dorothy Gale's conclusion, but somewhere past the halfway point, he started sounding like an amalgam of Ayn Rand and Joel Osteen with his talk of diamond mines and oil fields and riches as "Christian and godly duty," so I skipped to the end for the punchline: "He that can give you to his city any blessing, he who can be a good citizen while he lives here, he that can make better homes, he that can be a blessing whether he works in the shop or sits behind the counter or keeps house, whatever be his life, he who would be great anywhere must first be great in his own Philadelphia." Or Kansas or anywhere else, presumably. I'm not one for Christian hymns, but it made me think of Brighten the Corner Where You Are. Fair enough but, just the same, no reason not to venture forth and maybe find something closer to your "heart's desire" while giving those blessings and brightening other corners. But philosophical bone-picking with people I like is uncomfortable, and it's getting late and I'm tired after a couple scotches on the rocks, so maybe I'll regret all this in the morning.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Jan 20, 2024 8:11:47 GMT
This one I used a lot for myself, but don't remember saying it to the target person's face. There can be individuals to whom that's applicable in specific situations, but I can't admire the presumption and arrogance of the character - or anyone else - who takes it upon himself to make a general policy of determining it for others.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Jan 20, 2024 8:14:52 GMT
Rocky Wow! That is some graphic illustration of Mickey's assertion.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Jan 20, 2024 8:24:18 GMT
That one always requires vigorous mopping-up of the disingenuity, irony and sarcasm dripping from it. But what a charming scoundrel Louis Renault was.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Jan 20, 2024 8:28:27 GMT
This one has been used in everyday conversation I'll never forget that Isapop once walloped me with a brutally funny paraphrasing of it.
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Post by Isapop on Jan 20, 2024 14:38:54 GMT
This one has been used in everyday conversation I'll never forget that Isapop once walloped me with a brutally funny paraphrasing of it. Did I? Would you refresh my memory of the occasion?
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Post by Pippen on Jan 20, 2024 14:42:32 GMT
"Clarence: [In book inscription] Remember, George: no man is a failure who has friends."
This one always bothered me (as has been discussed in the past )
Thing being ... Is a man without friends a failure ?
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Post by Isapop on Jan 20, 2024 15:29:10 GMT
"Clarence: [In book inscription] Remember, George: no man is a failure who has friends." This one always bothered me (as has been discussed in the past ) Thing being ... Is a man without friends a failure ? No, that does not logically follow from the inscription. Having friends is one path away from failure. But that doesn't exclude the possibility of other paths away from failure.
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Post by Teleadm on Jan 20, 2024 16:30:54 GMT
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