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Post by movieliker on Jan 28, 2018 3:04:05 GMT
Because it is both. The angle of the Sun is important too. I really don't mean to be rude, but you asked for clarification and refuse to accept it. When the distance thing theory is completely off for half the planet I can't see how it's logical to cling to it. You can be rude if you want to. I said I think both the angle and the distance from the Sun affect the seasons of the Earth. I never said the angle had no affect. I just said I think the distance does too. |
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Post by kls on Jan 28, 2018 3:06:39 GMT
I really don't mean to be rude, but you asked for clarification and refuse to accept it. When the distance thing theory is completely off for half the planet I can't see how it's logical to cling to it. You can be rude if you want to. I said I think both the angle and the distance from the Sun affect the seasons of the Earth. I never said the angle had no affect. I just said I think the distance does too. I'm not sure what the point of asking was if you have your mind made up. If distance of the earth from the sun has an effect how would that work in the Northern Hemisphere when it's usually coldest when the sun is closest and warmest when then sun is furthest away? Maybe just google search if you don't accept the answers from the folks here? |
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Post by movieliker on Jan 28, 2018 3:20:48 GMT
You can be rude if you want to. I said I think both the angle and the distance from the Sun affect the seasons of the Earth. I never said the angle had no affect. I just said I think the distance does too. I'm not sure what the point of asking was if you have your mind made up. If distance has an effect how would that work in the Northern Hemisphere when it's usually coldest when the sun is closest and warmest when then sun is furthest away? Maybe just google search? The atmosphere and the magnetic field protects the Earth from direct sun rays. But it doesn't protect the Earth from more heat as a result from being closer to the Sun. The atmosphere spreads the heat around the planet. So the planet is hotter than it would be if the Earth wasn't closer during the Northern Hemisphere's winter. |
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Post by kls on Jan 28, 2018 3:24:33 GMT
I'm not sure what the point of asking was if you have your mind made up. If distance has an effect how would that work in the Northern Hemisphere when it's usually coldest when the sun is closest and warmest when then sun is furthest away? Maybe just google search? The atmosphere and the magnetic field protects the Earth from direct sun rays. But it doesn't protect the Earth from more heat as a result from being closer to the Sun. The atmosphere spreads the heat around the planet. So the planet is hotter than it would be if the Earth wasn't closer during the Northern Hemisphere's winter. Maybe I'm missing the point of the thread. If you are sure that's true or the answer why did you ask the question? |
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Post by movieliker on Jan 28, 2018 3:32:33 GMT
The atmosphere and the magnetic field protects the Earth from direct sun rays. But it doesn't protect the Earth from more heat as a result from being closer to the Sun. The atmosphere spreads the heat around the planet. So the planet is hotter than it would be if the Earth wasn't closer during the Northern Hemisphere's winter. Maybe I'm missing the point of the thread. If you are sure that's true or the answer why did you ask the question? My question was what was everybody saying on that other thread about what causes the seasons on Earth. Because it seemed they were headed in the wrong direction. Once people started answering, I gave my opinion. |
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Post by kls on Jan 28, 2018 3:35:44 GMT
Maybe I'm missing the point of the thread. If you are sure that's true or the answer why did you ask the question? My question was what was everybody saying on that other thread about what causes the seasons on Earth. Because it seemed they were headed in the wrong direction. Once people started answering, I gave my opinion. Not really an opinion issue.... |
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Post by movieliker on Jan 28, 2018 3:43:19 GMT
My question was what was everybody saying on that other thread about what causes the seasons on Earth. Because it seemed they were headed in the wrong direction. Once people started answering, I gave my opinion. Not really an opinion issue.... Why do you say that? |
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Post by kls on Jan 28, 2018 4:19:03 GMT
Not really an opinion issue.... Why do you say that? Because what you are talking about (atmosphere and magnetic field in terms of distance from the sun) would at best possibly explain why one hemisphere may tend to have a more mild winter or a cooler summer than the other, but only the tilt explains why the seasons occur. You did bring up asking what's more responsible and it's tilt. |
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Post by movieliker on Jan 28, 2018 4:35:08 GMT
Because what you are talking about (atmosphere and magnetic field in terms of distance from the sun) would at best possibly explain why one hemisphere may tend to have a more mild winter or a cooler summer than the other, but only the tilt explains why the seasons occur. You did bring up asking what's more responsible and it's tilt. And if that is your opinion, thank you for sharing it with me. But my opinion is different. I believe both the tilt and distance have an effect on the seasons, and temperature of the Earth. |
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Post by kls on Jan 28, 2018 4:39:30 GMT
Because what you are talking about (atmosphere and magnetic field in terms of distance from the sun) would at best possibly explain why one hemisphere may tend to have a more mild winter or a cooler summer than the other, but only the tilt explains why the seasons occur. You did bring up asking what's more responsible and it's tilt. And if that is your opinion, thank you for sharing it with me. But my opinion is different. I believe both the tilt and distance have an effect on the seasons, and temperature of the Earth. Number one you asked which was more responsible. It's tilt. Number two temperature of the Earth wasn't included in your original question. But seriously, why not google search which has more of an effect? |
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Post by movieliker on Jan 28, 2018 4:46:45 GMT
And if that is your opinion, thank you for sharing it with me. But my opinion is different. I believe both the tilt and distance have an effect on the seasons, and temperature of the Earth. Number one you asked which was more responsible. It's tilt. Number two temperature of the Earth wasn't included in your original question. But seriously, why not google search which has more of an effect? I did Google search. And based on what I saw, I think both tilt and distance have an effect on the seasons. You are correct, temperature was never included in my original question. |
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Post by kls on Jan 28, 2018 4:55:57 GMT
Number one you asked which was more responsible. It's tilt. Number two temperature of the Earth wasn't included in your original question. But seriously, why not google search which has more of an effect? I did Google search. And based on what I saw, I think both tilt and distance have an effect on the seasons. You are correct, temperature was never included in my original question. I take the word responsible as meaning the cause/why something happens. It's tilt. If distance has an effect it would be if a winter is milder or harsher/if a summer is hotter or cooler, but still not the reason for seasons happening. |
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Post by movieliker on Jan 28, 2018 5:03:36 GMT
I did Google search. And based on what I saw, I think both tilt and distance have an effect on the seasons. You are correct, temperature was never included in my original question. I take the word responsible as meaning the cause/why something happens. If distance has an effect it still isn't the reason for seasons happening. I disagree. I think the tilt and distance are responsible for the seasons. |
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Post by kls on Jan 28, 2018 12:36:56 GMT
I take the word responsible as meaning the cause/why something happens. If distance has an effect it still isn't the reason for seasons happening. I disagree. I think the tilt and distance are responsible for the seasons. The tilt is necessary for causing the seasons. We wouldn't have seasons without it. On the other hand if Earth had a perfectly circular orbit and was always the same distance from the sun we'd still have seasons. |
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Jan 28, 2018 13:06:09 GMT
The distance from the Sun must have an effect. Yes, a peanut of an effect. The variation from 91 million to 94 million is a variation of approx. +/- 1.5%. However, the tilt causes a variation in the concentration of the sun's rays of approx. +100% to -50%. That is much more significant. Here:  When the sun is overhead in the sky, a beam of sunlight of width x, falls on the ground with width x. However, when the sun is low (due to the tilt), a beam of width x can fall on the ground with width 2x, i.e. the rays are half as concentrated, therefore are delivering half the concentration of heat. |
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