Wales wants to allow 16 year olds to vote

If 16 year olds can legally operate motor vehicles that could potentially kill people, then I say they should be allowed to vote...

Personally, I would like to see 18 for everything. Welsh Conservatives want to limit it to over 75 year olds who subscribe to the Daily Telegraph.

And what's your stand on Heinlein's "Starship Trooper" rule for franchise?

Taxation and voting have nothing to do with each other. Just because you came up with a little rhyme that satisfies your simple minds, does not mean they are linked.

Taxation is paying for services, nothing more, which requires no level of maturity or responsibility and can be undertaken by anybody.

Voting exerts national level power which does require maturity and responsibility, which cannot be undertaken by 16 year olds. If you think 16 year olds should vote because they are taxed, do you also think they should be able to buy alcohol?

Guess you (I won't indulge in tedious generalisations like you did) need an injection of a few brain cells to be able to figure this out.


Bullshit. I don't see why agovernment should be able to tax wages of someone 16 years old and they shouldn't expect a vote on how that's used.
What is your argument based on here? That young people are too stupid to be allowed a vote? Or just that you don't like that young people tend to be more left wing than older people as a rule? Both are bunk.

My reasoning is the same as for denying them alcohol - they are not mature enough to understand it or deal with it in a responsible manner. And yes, they should be taxed if they are working because they are consuming public services which they can no afford to contribute to. Everybody consuming services must pay if they can. But tt does not mean they are responsible enough to decide where their taxes should go because they have no clue about the world. You use the word 'stupid', I use the word immature.

It would be useful if you learned where to type your response. It should not be appended to my comment. Maybe you lot aren't smart enough to figure to out. Would you like this oh so stupid Brit to teach you?

It rather seems from your remarks though, that your main problem with 16 year olds voting is that they may vote for a political viewpoint that you don't like. This was also the reason that women were denied the vote for so long as they may have upset the "rich white monied" applecart.
   Those on benefits do not pay taxes, should they also be denied voting privileges ?
 I doubt the age will change as the Tories will fight tooth and nail against something they view as detrimental to themselves whilst wanting to change boundaries around the country to benefit themselves which some would say is rather hypocritical.
   It's a conversation worth having though as ages for consent/marriage/armed forces service/alcohol consumption/driving etc should be blanket at one age or another.