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Post by Flying Monkeys on Feb 4, 2018 14:40:46 GMT
I care about as much about that as I do your middle of the night alcoholic brain-farts. No answer then from the intellectual void known as Ebuzzmiller. "I don't care" = "I can't argue against that so I will deflect." What a clown. Also, you'll find that 21 hours ago was the middle of the afternoon, dumbass. Now answer this. Should 16 year-olds be able to buy and consume alcohol? No deflections please, just an answer. |
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Post by zos on Feb 4, 2018 14:45:00 GMT
It rather seems from your remarks though, that your main problem with 16 year olds voting is that they may vote for a political viewpoint that you don't like. You can conclude that if you wish, but I have stated twice now that the reason is because I do not think they are mature enough to handle - the same reason we don't sell them alcohol. Question to you - do you think 16 year-olds should be able to buy and consume alcohol? If not, why not? Please answer. I have asked a few times on this thread and everyone ducks the question. (Because they know the answer and it contradicts their answer about being able to vote at 16.) No, I believe it should be eighteen for everything, including voting, driving, armed forces and marriage. I just don't believe that it should be different for various things as that is plainly unfair. Saying that you can go to war, kill and die in my name but not have a say on the person that sends you to kill and die is utterly undemocratic IMHO. |
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Feb 4, 2018 14:45:34 GMT
It rather seems from your remarks though, that your main problem with 16 year olds voting is that they may vote for a political viewpoint that you don't like. This was also the reason that women were denied the vote for so long as they may have upset the "rich white monied" applecart. Those on benefits do not pay taxes, should they also be denied voting privileges ? I doubt the age will change as the Tories will fight tooth and nail against something they view as detrimental to themselves whilst wanting to change boundaries around the country to benefit themselves which some would say is rather hypocritical. It's a conversation worth having though as ages for consent/marriage/armed forces service/alcohol consumption/driving etc should be blanket at one age or another. DING DING DING! Monkey-man likes to pretend he's an intellectual conservative, but posts like the one he made reveal a deep seated reactionary streak coupled with a cranky old man 'look at these young people today' philosophy. Either he was one of those sorry sad-sacks who were a young conservative from his teenage years or he is someone who forget he was every young. He reminds me very much of my 80 something old man who spouts such gibberish I have to smack his face at least once a month. P.S. Good for you, you finally figured out where to put your reply. Who said american lefties were idiots? It only took you two months to work it out - you are really clever. Well done, little timmy, you can now go and play in the yard and pretend to be clever out there as well. |
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Feb 4, 2018 14:51:13 GMT
No, I believe it should be eighteen for everything, including voting, driving, armed forces and marriage. I just don't believe that it should be different for various things as that is plainly unfair. Saying that you can go to war, kill and die in my name but not have a say on the person that sends you to kill and die is utterly undemocratic IMHO. Well at least you are consistent, so that is fair enough. Can't say I disagree as 18 is the year people leave school, it's the age they become an adult. On paper. Ebuzzmiller has yet to become an adult, but here's hoping he can reply rationally rather than the usual lefty attempts at insults and declaring how clever they are when they went to some shit bumhole of a tech college. |
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Post by ebuzzmiller on Feb 5, 2018 3:14:50 GMT
No, I believe it should be eighteen for everything, including voting, driving, armed forces and marriage. I just don't believe that it should be different for various things as that is plainly unfair. Saying that you can go to war, kill and die in my name but not have a say on the person that sends you to kill and die is utterly undemocratic IMHO. Well at least you are consistent, so that is fair enough. Can't say I disagree as 18 is the year people leave school, it's the age they become an adult. On paper. Ebuzzmiller has yet to become an adult, but here's hoping he can reply rationally rather than the usual lefty attempts at insults and declaring how clever they are when they went to some shit bumhole of a tech college. I don't need to declare I'm smarter than you, things are self-evident. And by the way you throw pejoratives around like confetti, so pull your head out of your fat hairy Daily Mail reading asshole. |
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Post by ebuzzmiller on Feb 5, 2018 3:17:12 GMT
It rather seems from your remarks though, that your main problem with 16 year olds voting is that they may vote for a political viewpoint that you don't like. You can conclude that if you wish, but I have stated twice now that the reason is because I do not think they are mature enough to handle - the same reason we don't sell them alcohol. Question to you - do you think 16 year-olds should be able to buy and consume alcohol? If not, why not? Please answer. I have asked a few times on this thread and everyone ducks the question. (Because they know the answer and it contradicts their answer about being able to vote at 16.) Alcohol should be 21 and over. Teenagers lack the ability to drink responsibly. Then again I think booze should be banned in general given the damage it causes collaterally. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2018 14:48:53 GMT
And what's your stand on Heinlein's "Starship Trooper" rule for franchise? Good. But highly impractical, I suspect, as you simply couldn't put that many people through national service. National Service wasn't just the military, it included other things as well. It could be ditch digging in Devonshire, teaching council estate kids to read, to even swamping out the loo at Paddington Station.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Feb 12, 2018 18:14:52 GMT
National Service wasn't just the military, it included other things as well. It could be ditch digging in Devonshire, teaching council estate kids to read, to even swamping out the loo at Paddington Station.
Okay, then I'm in. |
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