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Post by Flying Monkeys on Jan 28, 2018 18:46:15 GMT
When you submit your tax return, you get a page that asks you to say what % of your taxes you want to go to each category of government expense.
It couldn't be followed exactly but it would give government a democratic view of what people see as priorities.
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Post by kls on Jan 28, 2018 18:51:56 GMT
When you submit your tax return, you get a page that asks you to say what % of your taxes you want to go to each category of government expense. It couldn't be followed exactly but it would give government a democratic view of what people see as priorities. To the extent that you can vote for representatives who have similar philosophies and pass laws about how much each budget item should be funded. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 19:07:28 GMT
Yes but opinions are like a-holes- everyone has one.
The millions who are lazy and dont want to work ( and i am NOT naming any names. {{{coughcouchblackhoodratscoughcoug}}) may vote for all the entitlements they can get their hands on
and the millions who have illnesses who have girfriends in wheelchairs and are both broke and I am NOT naming any names {{coughcoughlibtardsfromtheotherboardcoughcough}} may want to vote for taxes going to universal health care.
the poor will vote to tax the rich more
the rich will vote to tax themselves less and provide less entitlements to the poor
So its kind of a bad idea one way or another.
"Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others" Churchill
The illegals and libtards are firmly entrenched in this country.You cant blame the damn founding fathers- they didnt know people would become so lazy they want to get spoonfed money and food while the rest of a country works to support them.
The only way for things to get better? After WW3 when we start a new govt, we will keep the rifraff out and get rid of all those entitlements
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Post by slowcomingwarbird on Jan 29, 2018 23:14:54 GMT
When you submit your tax return, you get a page that asks you to say what % of your taxes you want to go to each category of government expense. It couldn't be followed exactly but it would give government a democratic view of what people see as priorities. No... That is what charitable donations are for. Which is why charitable donations are tax deductible. What did you think rich people donated their money out of the goodness of their hearts? How stupid can you get? You act like you have no idea how society works, like you don't know whether to scratch your watch or wind your ass. www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/114000.htmlThe founding fathers assumed that everyone would work together to maintain democracy instead of constantly looking for ways to break it. The other is the assumption that everyone wants freedom and would not like to live under a dictatorship. Democracy only works when there is diversity, otherwise it would quickly turn into a kleptocracy or dictatorship. |
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Post by ebuzzmiller on Jan 29, 2018 23:47:00 GMT
Maybe, but you'd need an army of accountants to just sort out everyone's preferences so it'd be an impractical cluster-fuck.
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Post by ebuzzmiller on Jan 29, 2018 23:47:55 GMT
Yes but opinions are like a-holes- everyone has one. The millions who are lazy and dont want to work ( and i am NOT naming any names. {{{coughcouchblackhoodratscoughcoug}}) may vote for all the entitlements they can get their hands on and the millions who have illnesses who have girfriends in wheelchairs and are both broke and I am NOT naming any names {{coughcoughlibtardsfromtheotherboardcoughcough}} may want to vote for taxes going to universal health care. the poor will vote to tax the rich more the rich will vote to tax themselves less and provide less entitlements to the poor So its kind of a bad idea one way or another. "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others" Churchill The illegals and libtards are firmly entrenched in this country.You cant blame the damn founding fathers- they didnt know people would become so lazy they want to get spoonfed money and food while the rest of a country works to support them. The only way for things to get better? After WW3 when we start a new govt, we will keep the rifraff out and get rid of all those entitlements You would be first against the wall come a revolution. |
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Post by movieliker on Jan 30, 2018 2:06:40 GMT
When you submit your tax return, you get a page that asks you to say what % of your taxes you want to go to each category of government expense. It couldn't be followed exactly but it would give government a democratic view of what people see as priorities. We kinda do indirectly. When people (in America) vote Republican they know their tax dollars will be going to a stronger military, a stronger economy and less social programs. When people (in America) vote Democrat they know that their tax dollars will be going to more social programs, bigger government, income distribution and foreign aid. The specifics are left up to the politicians and government administrators. |
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Post by scienceisgod on Jan 30, 2018 6:11:26 GMT
Yes but opinions are like a-holes- everyone has one. The millions who are lazy and dont want to work ( and i am NOT naming any names. {{{coughcouchblackhoodratscoughcoug}}) may vote for all the entitlements they can get their hands on and the millions who have illnesses who have girfriends in wheelchairs and are both broke and I am NOT naming any names {{coughcoughlibtardsfromtheotherboardcoughcough}} may want to vote for taxes going to universal health care. the poor will vote to tax the rich more the rich will vote to tax themselves less and provide less entitlements to the poor So its kind of a bad idea one way or another. "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others" Churchill The illegals and libtards are firmly entrenched in this country.You cant blame the damn founding fathers- they didnt know people would become so lazy they want to get spoonfed money and food while the rest of a country works to support them. The only way for things to get better? After WW3 when we start a new govt, we will keep the rifraff out and get rid of all those entitlements On the other board (and on this one) it’s the liberals who are against this idea. Liberals are against free speech for the same reason. It’s an admission of criminality. |
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Post by scienceisgod on Jan 30, 2018 6:16:09 GMT
When you submit your tax return, you get a page that asks you to say what % of your taxes you want to go to each category of government expense. It couldn't be followed exactly but it would give government a democratic view of what people see as priorities. We kinda do indirectly. When people (in America) vote Republican they know their tax dollars will be going to a stronger military, a stronger economy and less social programs. When people (in America) vote Democrat they know that their tax dollars will be going to more social programs, bigger government, income distribution and foreign aid. The specifics are left up to the politicians and government administrators. Medicare Part D under Bush was bigger than A B and C. Obama invaded more countries than Bush. All our major wars were started by liberal progressives. Dumb housewives want infinite money for schools, police, and multinational pharmaceutical corporations. What are you afraid won’t get funded? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 11:27:00 GMT
Yes but opinions are like a-holes- everyone has one. The millions who are lazy and dont want to work ( and i am NOT naming any names. {{{coughcouchblackhoodratscoughcoug}}) may vote for all the entitlements they can get their hands on and the millions who have illnesses who have girfriends in wheelchairs and are both broke and I am NOT naming any names {{coughcoughlibtardsfromtheotherboardcoughcough}} may want to vote for taxes going to universal health care. the poor will vote to tax the rich more the rich will vote to tax themselves less and provide less entitlements to the poor So its kind of a bad idea one way or another. "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others" Churchill The illegals and libtards are firmly entrenched in this country.You cant blame the damn founding fathers- they didnt know people would become so lazy they want to get spoonfed money and food while the rest of a country works to support them. The only way for things to get better? After WW3 when we start a new govt, we will keep the rifraff out and get rid of all those entitlements God, you really are a POS. |
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Post by ebuzzmiller on Jan 30, 2018 11:57:22 GMT
Yes but opinions are like a-holes- everyone has one. The millions who are lazy and dont want to work ( and i am NOT naming any names. {{{coughcouchblackhoodratscoughcoug}}) may vote for all the entitlements they can get their hands on and the millions who have illnesses who have girfriends in wheelchairs and are both broke and I am NOT naming any names {{coughcoughlibtardsfromtheotherboardcoughcough}} may want to vote for taxes going to universal health care. the poor will vote to tax the rich more the rich will vote to tax themselves less and provide less entitlements to the poor So its kind of a bad idea one way or another. "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others" Churchill The illegals and libtards are firmly entrenched in this country.You cant blame the damn founding fathers- they didnt know people would become so lazy they want to get spoonfed money and food while the rest of a country works to support them. The only way for things to get better? After WW3 when we start a new govt, we will keep the rifraff out and get rid of all those entitlements On the other board (and on this one) it’s the liberals who are against this idea. Liberals are against free speech for the same reason. It’s an admission of criminality. Or maybe some of us studied history and saw how this went in the French revolution and want to avoid some dipshit Robespierre wannabe declaring themselves a supreme being. But please feel free to outline this 'new world order' government idea so I can systematically shoot holes in it. |
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Post by Harold of Whoa on Jan 30, 2018 14:07:14 GMT
No, but I have an alternative idea.
Every single person who makes a dime, in any form whatsoever (wages, bonuses, options, dividends, contractor payments, interest, capital gains, benefits, etc.) should pay exactly the same flat rate percentage on the money coming in at the time they are paid. It should be spelled out in bold letters on their pay stub, etc. The amount should be a floating amount determined to precisely fund the government's obligations as of right now. If a new spending program is enacted, that rate should increase by the appropriate amount immediately. No filing, no deductions, no refunds, no progressive scale based on income, just moment-by-moment feedback of how much is being spent by government that everyone pays in the exact same proportion.
I can guarantee you that every politician would become a budget hawk overnight.
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Post by movieliker on Jan 30, 2018 17:13:59 GMT
Yes but opinions are like a-holes- everyone has one. The millions who are lazy and dont want to work ( and i am NOT naming any names. {{{coughcouchblackhoodratscoughcoug}}) may vote for all the entitlements they can get their hands on and the millions who have illnesses who have girfriends in wheelchairs and are both broke and I am NOT naming any names {{coughcoughlibtardsfromtheotherboardcoughcough}} may want to vote for taxes going to universal health care. the poor will vote to tax the rich more the rich will vote to tax themselves less and provide less entitlements to the poor So its kind of a bad idea one way or another. "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others" Churchill The illegals and libtards are firmly entrenched in this country.You cant blame the damn founding fathers- they didnt know people would become so lazy they want to get spoonfed money and food while the rest of a country works to support them. The only way for things to get better? After WW3 when we start a new govt, we will keep the rifraff out and get rid of all those entitlements God, you really are a POS. You don't need to abbreviate. You can just write out "piece of shit". |
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Post by eastenn on Jan 30, 2018 17:38:17 GMT
Taxes?
I don't pay no stinking taxes!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2018 5:06:06 GMT
Yes but opinions are like a-holes- everyone has one. The millions who are lazy and dont want to work ( and i am NOT naming any names. {{{coughcouchblackhoodratscoughcoug}}) may vote for all the entitlements they can get their hands on and the millions who have illnesses who have girfriends in wheelchairs and are both broke and I am NOT naming any names {{coughcoughlibtardsfromtheotherboardcoughcough}} may want to vote for taxes going to universal health care. the poor will vote to tax the rich more the rich will vote to tax themselves less and provide less entitlements to the poor So its kind of a bad idea one way or another. "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others" Churchill The illegals and libtards are firmly entrenched in this country.You cant blame the damn founding fathers- they didnt know people would become so lazy they want to get spoonfed money and food while the rest of a country works to support them. The only way for things to get better? After WW3 when we start a new govt, we will keep the rifraff out and get rid of all those entitlements God, you really are a POS. Thank you for proving what I have been saying all alone. You are on block now since you arent adding valid and relevant anything to the discussion. Have a nice time in the liberal echo chamber next door whining about me on monkeys board LOL |
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