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Post by Deplorable Fascist Garbage on Feb 11, 2024 22:17:36 GMT
the October 7th attack wasn't planned in the vacuum, over 3,000 Hamas murderers crossed the border into Israel, they have families, they have friends, people knew about this in Gaza, and no one said anything, the people of Gaza are complicit in the attack on Israel and the leaders of Hamas are directly responsible for the aftermath I'm not disputing that.
And those were murdered by Hamas, no question. Just as every civilian who has been bombed by Israel were murdered by Israel.
wrong, Hamas set all the events in motion Hamas targets civilians, the IDF targets Hamas, who hides behind their own civilians, and Israeli hostages. So that Hamas can cry "lookie what thoze bad Jewz done to we innocent Palestinians!" If you buy into that yur a God damned idiot.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2024 22:19:23 GMT
The sheer volume of effort to avoid holding Israel to account is... if it weren't so horrifying, it would be amazing.
Right now, Egypt is threatening to suspend its peace treaty with Israel because of their offensive in Rafah. Lets all sit around like dumb-asses and say "thanks, Hamas".
I agree, it's awful. Really, it's just like things would be a whole lot better if Hamas hadn't crossed the border on Oct 7th. raped, tortured, and murdered 1,200 non-combatant civilians. I gotta hand it to you. You really know how to make 1200 seem like more than 28,000.
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Post by jeffersoncody on Feb 11, 2024 22:21:10 GMT
The sheer volume of effort to avoid holding Israel to account is... if it weren't so horrifying, it would be amazing.
Right now, Egypt is threatening to suspend its peace treaty with Israel because of their offensive in Rafah. Lets all sit around like dumb-asses and say "thanks, Hamas".
I agree, it's awful. Really, it's just like things would be a whole lot better if Hamas hadn't crossed the border on Oct 7th. raped, tortured, and murdered 1,200 non-combatant civilians.You are absolutely 100 percent correct NoRevs. The Hamas terrorists and their supporters in Palestine fucked up when they poked the bear.
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Post by lunda2222 on Feb 11, 2024 22:21:52 GMT
I'm not disputing that.
And those were murdered by Hamas, no question. Just as every civilian who has been bombed by Israel were murdered by Israel.
wrong, Hamas set all the events in motion Hamas targets civilians, the IDF targets Hamas, who hides behind their own civilians, and Israeli hostages. So that Hamas can cry "lookie what thoze bad Jewz done to we innocent Palestinians!" If you buy into that yur a God damned idiot. So what?
Your argument are essentially: Because person X are hitting me, I'm obliged to hit person Y.
I would expect that from a five year old boy, not an adult man.
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Post by SciFive on Feb 11, 2024 22:32:52 GMT
wrong, Hamas set all the events in motion Hamas targets civilians, the IDF targets Hamas, who hides behind their own civilians, and Israeli hostages. So that Hamas can cry "lookie what thoze bad Jewz done to we innocent Palestinians!" If you buy into that yur a God damned idiot. So what?
Your argument are essentially: Because person X are hitting me, I'm obliged to hit person Y.
I would expect that from a five year old boy, not an adult man.
Person X mutilated Person Z’s children (some of them) and threatens to mutilate the rest of them. Person Z has to stop Person X even if he hides under his own family because he doesn’t care if they die. Person Z can’t guarantee that none of them will be hurt.
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Post by jeffersoncody on Feb 11, 2024 22:36:57 GMT
wrong, Hamas set all the events in motion Hamas targets civilians, the IDF targets Hamas, who hides behind their own civilians, and Israeli hostages. So that Hamas can cry "lookie what thoze bad Jewz done to we innocent Palestinians!" If you buy into that yur a God damned idiot. So what?
Your argument are essentially: Because person X are hitting me, I'm obliged to hit person Y.No, the argument is. Hamas terrorists raped, murdered, burnt alive, blew up and kidnapped 1200 Israeli citizens, including babies, small children, pregnant women and the elderly, so we must obliterate this scum from the face of the earth, and if their supporters and allies and their children in Palestine do not want to get killed in the crossfire they must heed Israels warning to evacuate the war zone. They must also demand the surrender of Hamas and the immediate release of the hostages:
Deplorable Fascist Garbage ,
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Post by lunda2222 on Feb 11, 2024 22:37:04 GMT
So what?
Your argument are essentially: Because person X are hitting me, I'm obliged to hit person Y.
I would expect that from a five year old boy, not an adult man.
Person X mutilated Person Z’s children (some of them) and threatens to mutilate the rest of them. Person Z has to stop Person X even if he hides under his own family because he doesn’t care if they die. Person Z can’t guarantee that none of them will be hurt. Where does Z comer into it? Do you mean Y?
No I see it now, never mind.
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Post by Deplorable Fascist Garbage on Feb 11, 2024 22:41:46 GMT
I agree, it's awful. Really, it's just like things would be a whole lot better if Hamas hadn't crossed the border on Oct 7th. raped, tortured, and murdered 1,200 non-combatant civilians. I gotta hand it to you. You really know how to make 1200 seem like more than 28,000.
you start a war, you accept the losses you don't want the causalities, don't start a war
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Post by jeffersoncody on Feb 11, 2024 22:44:37 GMT
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Post by Deplorable Fascist Garbage on Feb 11, 2024 22:46:22 GMT
wrong, Hamas set all the events in motion Hamas targets civilians, the IDF targets Hamas, who hides behind their own civilians, and Israeli hostages. So that Hamas can cry "lookie what thoze bad Jewz done to we innocent Palestinians!" If you buy into that yur a God damned idiot. So what?
Your argument are essentially: Because person X are hitting me, I'm obliged to hit person Y.
I would expect that from a five year old boy, not an adult man.
wrong again person X hits me and knocks me down, I punch person X, person X falls on top of person Y person Y hits their head on the pavement and dies not my fault
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Post by lunda2222 on Feb 11, 2024 22:50:04 GMT
So what?
Your argument are essentially: Because person X are hitting me, I'm obliged to hit person Y.
I would expect that from a five year old boy, not an adult man.
wrong again person X hits me and knocks me down, I punch person X, person X falls on top of person Y person Y hits their head on the pavement and dies not my fault Only if bombing civilians is somehow an accident. It's not.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2024 23:11:18 GMT
So what?
Your argument are essentially: Because person X are hitting me, I'm obliged to hit person Y.No, the argument is. Hamas terrorists raped, murdered, burnt alive, blew up and kidnapped 1200 Israeli citizens, including babies, small children, pregnant women and the elderly, so we must obliterate this scum from the face of the earth, and if their supporters and allies and their children in Palestine do not want to get killed in the crossfire they must heed Israels warning to evacuate the war zone. They must also demand the surrender of Hamas and the immediate release of the hostages:
Deplorable Fascist Garbage , I normally don't comment on the ME conflicts because 1 I don't know enough about them and 2 they can get pretty freaking hellish in the threads... But realistically how can they do that? I could be wrong but weren't they advised by Israel to go South to avoid the War Zone? And that's what they did. Relocating multiple times until they got to Rafah. Rafah went from something like 250k/300k to over a 1milllion people. That's pretty concentrated. Now they can't go further south or west because their tents are literally on border walls and fences with the IDF and IAF about to commence an attack from North and East. Unless IDF opens a corridor for the civilians to leave North or NE now... I don't know if that would be a good idea for IDF to do. I mean that might open them up to Hamas hiding in and under the civilians giving Hamas opportunity for attacks. Probably be sound military tactic not to open up a corridor for the civilians to go north. So Civilians and Children have to do what break into Egypt to escape? Doubt Egypt would allow that. Now that Rafah is really oversaturated with people I don't see how civilians/children get out or IDF/IAF minimize civilian/children causalities if and when the attack starts.
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Post by Deplorable Fascist Garbage on Feb 11, 2024 23:12:07 GMT
wrong again person X hits me and knocks me down, I punch person X, person X falls on top of person Y person Y hits their head on the pavement and dies not my fault Only if bombing civilians is somehow an accident. It's not. the IDF doesn't bomb civilians specifically, on Oct. 7th Hamas DID target non-combatant Israeli civilians, killing 1,200 civilians and taking 240 hostage the IDF then did target Hamas, who purposely hid among their own civilian population Hamas invites these IDF responses so they can cry "look what thoze bad Jewz did to us!" and if you buy into this shit yur an idiot
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Post by SciFive on Feb 11, 2024 23:25:39 GMT
wrong again person X hits me and knocks me down, I punch person X, person X falls on top of person Y person Y hits their head on the pavement and dies not my fault Only if bombing civilians is somehow an accident. It's not. Israel doesn’t aim at civilians. This is what the Pal terror groups do 99% of the time. It’s why they must be stopped.
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Post by drystyx on Feb 11, 2024 23:34:06 GMT
this is so terrible! it just makes me wish Hamas hadn't crossed the border, raped, tortured, and murdered, over 1200 innocent, non-combatant Israeli civilians ! Doesn't matter what Hamas has done.
Unless they are the who killed them, they aren't responsible for her death.
Your argument is essentially the same as a wife beaters "look at what you made me do".
Uh, you do know that your IQ is under 40, don't you? You do know that much? (No offense) So you're saying Hamas was "nagging" people like a wife might nag a husband. You're a liar and an idiot for thinking anyone can make sense out of your lie. Hamas is 100% to blame, just like a bank robber shooting at the police while escaping is 100% to blame for anyone who dies in crossfire when police shoot back.
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