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Post by primethefirst on Mar 17, 2024 17:55:13 GMT
Londoners Slam Latest Woke Sculpture: ‘Hideous Political Trash’ 16 Mar 2024 The latest “contemporary” sculpture to be unveiled in London’s Trafalgar Square has sparked an uproar, with critics slamming the cartoonish figure as “hideous political trash.” The square has been home to many art installations over the decades, with the Fourth Plinth featuring a rotating cast of artworks every few years since 1999. Detractors aren’t surprised that the sculpture has been changed, but that the latest replacement doesn’t appear to represent native Londoners. Lady in Blue is a sculpture of a black woman with abstract proportions, including strangely long arms and very pronounced buttocks and legs. Artist Tschabalala Self said the piece pays “homage to a young, metropolitan woman of color” in a statement obtained by the Art Newspaper. Self, an American from New York City, has enjoyed “meteoric success with her distinctive works depicting black and predominantly female figures,” the publication reported in 2020. “Putting the obvious leftist race politics aside why is the proposal so ugly. It’s almost laughable how hideous it is,” wrote one Londoner on X
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Post by Stammerhead on Mar 17, 2024 18:06:34 GMT
I don’t mind it but then again I draw cartoons so am not upset by cartoonish figures.  |
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Post by notoriousnobbi on Mar 17, 2024 18:15:48 GMT
For comparison - I really wonder when it was the last time a sculpture of Niki de Saint Phalle had been attacked on the continent for being 'ugly' or 'woke' or 'sexist' or whateverthefuck.
No, I won't give Breitbart the click.
And I will fight any asshole trying to inflict a culture war like that onto Germany.
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Post by Carl LaFong on Mar 17, 2024 21:30:13 GMT
I don’t like it.
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Post by notoriousnobbi on Mar 17, 2024 21:41:58 GMT
You don't have to. And I didn't have a closer look either to decide whether I like it or not. But that is not the point! I smell something different here. Do You remember how the Nazis used the terminology entartete Kunst ? This is what reminded me of. Disgusting! |
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Post by Carl LaFong on Mar 17, 2024 21:44:19 GMT
You don't have to. And I didn't have a closer look either to decide whether I like it or not. But that is not the point! I smell something different here. Do You remember how the Nazis used the terminology entartete Kunst ? This is what reminded me of. Disgusting! It’s Breitbart. They’re insane. |
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Mar 17, 2024 21:51:19 GMT
I don’t mind it but then again I draw cartoons so am not upset by cartoonish figures. She’s a healthy woman. |
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Post by Stammerhead on Mar 17, 2024 22:40:39 GMT
I don’t mind it but then again I draw cartoons so am not upset by cartoonish figures. She’s a healthy woman. If she was white it would be good old fashioned music hall material. But if people are upset by it all they have to do is avoid looking at that corner of Trafalgar Square until the next sculpture takes its turn. |
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Post by tickingmask on Mar 17, 2024 23:00:31 GMT
I really wonder when it was the last time a sculpture of Niki de Saint Phalle had been attacked on the continent for being 'ugly' or 'woke' or 'sexist' or whateverthefuck. Where else on the continent has a sculpture of Niki de Saint Phalle ever been put up in one of the main squares in a capital city? Surely that is what has sparked criticism, not the fact that it is a sculpture of Niki de Saint Phalle, or is considered degenerate in some way.
If this sculpture had been put up say, in the middle of Alexanderplatz, would you expect everybody in Berlin, and indeed everywhere else in Germany, to let this pass without comment?
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Post by Carl LaFong on Mar 17, 2024 23:11:54 GMT
I really wonder when it was the last time a sculpture of Niki de Saint Phalle had been attacked on the continent for being 'ugly' or 'woke' or 'sexist' or whateverthefuck. Where else on the continent has a sculpture of Niki de Saint Phalle ever been put up in one of the main squares in a capital city? Surely that is what has sparked criticism, not the fact that it is a sculpture of Niki de Saint Phalle, or is considered degenerate in some way.
If this sculpture had been put up say, in the middle of Alexanderplatz, would you expect everybody in Berlin, and indeed everywhere else in Germany, to let this pass without comment?
It’s not a NdSP sculpture. Not sure why nobbi mentioned her. Does look a bit like her work admittedly. |
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Post by notoriousnobbi on Mar 17, 2024 23:39:07 GMT
Where else on the continent has a sculpture of Niki de Saint Phalle ever been put up in one of the main squares in a capital city? Surely that is what has sparked criticism, not the fact that it is a sculpture of Niki de Saint Phalle, or is considered degenerate in some way.
If this sculpture had been put up say, in the middle of Alexanderplatz, would you expect everybody in Berlin, and indeed everywhere else in Germany, to let this pass without comment?
It’s not a NdSP sculpture. Not sure why nobbi mentioned her. Does look a bit like her work admittedly. It's the opposite of an NSDAP sculpture. And that is exactly WHY I mentioned it. Have a look here Entartete Kunst // Degenerate Arten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degenerate_artIt'S worth digging that article! The way that Breitbart piece is trying to dismiss it as an ugly "contemporary" art reminds me of Nazi methods "Look, these politics are not good for You, as the art they produce is ugly, don't You agree?" In my little province town we do have even a sculpture that looks a bit like a Nana from Niki des Saint Phalle. It's in the open, (but admittedly not at a very central place) - but there was not a cultural war about it. The real war in that case was that parts of that place were sold to a private investor ripping that garden of sculptures in pieces. |
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Post by Carl LaFong on Mar 17, 2024 23:44:38 GMT
It’s not a NdSP sculpture. Not sure why nobbi mentioned her. Does look a bit like her work admittedly. It's the opposite of an NSDAP sculpture. And that is exactly WHY I mentioned it. Have a look here Entartete Kunst // Degenerate Arten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degenerate_artIt'S worth digging that article! The way that Breitbart piece is trying to dismiss it as an ugly "contemporary" art reminds me of Nazi methods "Look, these politics are not good for You, as the art they produce is ugly, don't You agree?" In my little province town we do have even a sculpture that looks a bit like a Nana from Niki des Saint Phalle. It's in the open, (but admittedly not at a very central place) - but there was not a cultural war about it. The real war in that case was that parts of that place were sold to a private investor ripping that garden of sculptures in pieces. NdSP is Niki de Saint-Phalle! |
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Post by notoriousnobbi on Mar 17, 2024 23:48:42 GMT
It's the opposite of an NSDAP sculpture. And that is exactly WHY I mentioned it. Have a look here Entartete Kunst // Degenerate Arten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degenerate_artIt'S worth digging that article! The way that Breitbart piece is trying to dismiss it as an ugly "contemporary" art reminds me of Nazi methods "Look, these politics are not good for You, as the art they produce is ugly, don't You agree?" In my little province town we do have even a sculpture that looks a bit like a Nana from Niki des Saint Phalle. It's in the open, (but admittedly not at a very central place) - but there was not a cultural war about it. The real war in that case was that parts of that place were sold to a private investor ripping that garden of sculptures in pieces. NdSP is Niki de Saint-Phalle! Hahaha, I messed this up, (rofl) But I hope that after reading that article on degenerate_art it becomes clear what I wanted to say... |
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Post by mowlick on Mar 18, 2024 0:11:30 GMT
I don’t mind it but then again I draw cartoons so am not upset by cartoonish figures. Well there you are.
It looks ok to me, but then my ideal is La Deliverance (commonly known as the Naked Lady to generations of London cabbies) at Henley Corner.
I like something that I can understand. La Deliverance is straightforward; we won, you lost, up yours kraut.
Not too sure about Lady in Blue other than it is a black lady with a big bum
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Post by Stammerhead on Mar 18, 2024 0:40:39 GMT
I don’t mind it but then again I draw cartoons so am not upset by cartoonish figures. Well there you are.
It looks ok to me, but then my ideal is La Deliverance (commonly known as the Naked Lady to generations of London cabbies) at Henley Corner.
I like something that I can understand. La Deliverance is straightforward; we won, you lost, up yours kraut.
Not too sure about Lady in Blue other than it is a black lady with a big bum
I like the look of the Blue Lady without having to bother with what it actually means. If it helps people can think of it as the woman who appears in the Tom and Jerry cartoons and thus bypass any harmful wokeness contained within the sculpture. |
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