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Post by Carl LaFong on May 2, 2024 13:57:04 GMT
That’s a lazy and boring retort. It is sublime metaphor, even so. We know who she is talking. To me that’s the purpose of the Muslim Panic fearmongering is to get indigenous Europeans (you know, white folks) to move rightward to elect more men like Orban, who are far more amenable to unbridled capitalism than their more liberal cohorts. This political tactic almost always works in the USA, none more so than now. No it isn’t. Our police foil significant numbers of Islamist terrorist plots every year. We spend billions on it. It’s not fear mongering as much as you’d like to pretend it is. Christ, I even posted about one the other day that they didn’t stop… a poor old pensioner was murdered by some creep who was angry about what went on in Gaza. He said he wanted to kill as many people as he could. How is it fear mongering to think the threat of Islamic terrorism in the U.K. is a very real one when it demonstrably is?
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Post by Carl LaFong on May 2, 2024 14:03:01 GMT
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Post by PaulsLaugh on May 2, 2024 14:10:11 GMT
It is sublime metaphor, even so. We know who she is talking. To me that’s the purpose of the Muslim Panic fearmongering is to get indigenous Europeans (you know, white folks) to move rightward to elect more men like Orban, who are far more amenable to unbridled capitalism than their more liberal cohorts. This political tactic almost always works in the USA, none more so than now. No it isn’t. Our police foil significant numbers of Islamist terrorist plots every year. We spend billions on it.It’s not fear mongering as much as you’d like to pretend it is. Christ, I even posted about one that they didn’t stop… a poor old pensioner was murdered by some creep who was angry about what went on in Gaza. He said he wanted to kill as many people as he could. How is it fear mongering to pretend the threat of Islamic terrorism in the U.K. is a very real one when it demonstrably is? How is it fear mongering to pretend the threat of Islamic terrorism in the U.K. is a very real one when it demonstrably is?Is not just happening there, but everywhere and it isn’t just Islamic terrorists. Your government and mine has foiled numerous plots, not just from Islamic terrorists. However, those are threats from the outside. Trace where the plots originate and are financed and it will mostly go to Saudi Arabia or that region. Again my point is the existential fear that white people, with a Christianity cultural heritage Europeans are going to convert en masse to that religion. I don’t get the fear over this. And from my standpoint with a decidedly fundamentalist political party gearing up with their Project 2025, it is a diversion from the real problems which go way beyond any border. The worst domestic terrorist event, after the implementations of the Civil Rights Act, in the USA came from Timothy McVee, the Oklahoma City bomber. After him Eric Rudolph, the Atlanta Olympic Park bomber. Both men were Christian Nationalists.
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Post by Carl LaFong on May 2, 2024 14:13:38 GMT
No it isn’t. Our police foil significant numbers of Islamist terrorist plots every year. We spend billions on it.It’s not fear mongering as much as you’d like to pretend it is. Christ, I even posted about one that they didn’t stop… a poor old pensioner was murdered by some creep who was angry about what went on in Gaza. He said he wanted to kill as many people as he could. How is it fear mongering to pretend the threat of Islamic terrorism in the U.K. is a very real one when it demonstrably is? How is it fear mongering to pretend the threat of Islamic terrorism in the U.K. is a very real one when it demonstrably is?Is not just happening there, but everywhere and it isn’t just Islamic terrorists. Your government and mine has foiled numerous plots, not just from Islamic terrorists. However, those are threats from the outside. Trace where the plots originate and are financed and it will mostly go to Saudi Arabia or that region. Again my point is existential fear that white people, with a Christianity cultural heritage Europeans are going to convert en masse to that religion. I don’t get the fear over this. And from my standpoint with a decidedly fundamentalist political party gearing up with their Project 2025, it is a diversion from the real problems which go way beyond any border. The worst domestic terrorist event, after the implementations of the Civil Rights Act, in the USA came from Timothy McVee, the Oklahoma City bomber. After him Eric Rudolph, the Atlanta Olympic Park bomber. Both men were Christian Nationalists. Not just Islamist terrorists, but mostly Islamists terrorist. In the U.K. anyway. Which is pretty remarkable when Muslims make up 7% of the population. I’m not talking about the US. Don’t know enough about it. Islamists have certainly murdered far more people in Western Europe in the last twenty years or so than all other terrorists put together. To ignore that would be stupid in the extreme.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on May 2, 2024 14:42:05 GMT
How is it fear mongering to pretend the threat of Islamic terrorism in the U.K. is a very real one when it demonstrably is?Is not just happening there, but everywhere and it isn’t just Islamic terrorists. Your government and mine has foiled numerous plots, not just from Islamic terrorists. However, those are threats from the outside. Trace where the plots originate and are financed and it will mostly go to Saudi Arabia or that region. Again my point is existential fear that white people, with a Christianity cultural heritage Europeans are going to convert en masse to that religion. I don’t get the fear over this. And from my standpoint with a decidedly fundamentalist political party gearing up with their Project 2025, it is a diversion from the real problems which go way beyond any border. The worst domestic terrorist event, after the implementations of the Civil Rights Act, in the USA came from Timothy McVee, the Oklahoma City bomber. After him Eric Rudolph, the Atlanta Olympic Park bomber. Both men were Christian Nationalists. Not just Islamist terrorists, but mostly Islamists terrorist. In the U.K. anyway. Which is pretty remarkable when Muslims make up 7% of the population. I’m not talking about the US. Don’t know enough about it. Islamists have certainly murdered far more people in Western Europe in the last twenty years or so than all other terrorists put together. To ignore that would be stupid in the extreme.I’m not ignoring it, but that is a separate issue from the claim Muslims are converting indigenous Europeans of their freewill to a Near Eastern religion. That could never happen—wait… 🤔 Anyway, does this include all crimes committed by Muslims regardless of their faith or actual connections to a terrorist party. Like the Boston Bombers were more fuck ups than Islamists.
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Post by Power Ranger on May 2, 2024 14:44:18 GMT
Just what did the Germans expect with their immigration policies?
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Post by Carl LaFong on May 2, 2024 14:57:07 GMT
Not just Islamist terrorists, but mostly Islamists terrorist. In the U.K. anyway. Which is pretty remarkable when Muslims make up 7% of the population. I’m not talking about the US. Don’t know enough about it. Islamists have certainly murdered far more people in Western Europe in the last twenty years or so than all other terrorists put together. To ignore that would be stupid in the extreme.I’m not ignoring it, but that is a separate issue from the claim Muslims are converting indigenous Europeans of their freewill to a Near Eastern religion. That could never happen—wait… 🤔 Anyway, does this include all crimes committed by Muslims regardless of their faith or actual connections to a terrorist party. Like the Boston Bombers were more fuck ups than Islamists. Terrorist incidents only. The Boston bombers were most certainly Islamist terrorists. that was clearly their motivation.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on May 2, 2024 15:04:24 GMT
I’m not ignoring it, but that is a separate issue from the claim Muslims are converting indigenous Europeans of their freewill to a Near Eastern religion. That could never happen—wait… 🤔 Anyway, does this include all crimes committed by Muslims regardless of their faith or actual connections to a terrorist party. Like the Boston Bombers were more fuck ups than Islamists. Terrorist incidents only. The Boston bombers were most certainly Islamist terrorists. that was clearly their motivation. But no more of a threat to the foundation to the nation than McVee or David Koresh, whom McVee was avenging. The acute danger is not my point and I’ve acknowledged it several times. One more time, is Europe in danger of 300 million people or more converting to Islam?
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Post by Carl LaFong on May 2, 2024 15:08:55 GMT
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Post by Carl LaFong on May 2, 2024 15:12:41 GMT
Terrorist incidents only. The Boston bombers were most certainly Islamist terrorists. that was clearly their motivation. But no more of a threat to the foundation to the nation than McVee or David Koresh, whom McVee was avenging. The acute danger is not my point and I’ve acknowledged it several times. One more time, is Europe in danger of 300 million people or more converting to Islam? Conversion has never been a worry of mine. Not sure why you’re bring it up with me. Vast majority of people here aren’t dim enough to convert to Islam.
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Post by Stammerhead on May 2, 2024 15:26:33 GMT
But no more of a threat to the foundation to the nation than McVee or David Koresh, whom McVee was avenging. The acute danger is not my point and I’ve acknowledged it several times. One more time, is Europe in danger of 300 million people or more converting to Islam? Conversion has never been a worry of mine. Not sure why you’re bring it up with me. Vast majority of people here aren’t dim enough to convert to Islam. I like how the most aggressive character in Four Lions is a convert.
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Post by Carl LaFong on May 2, 2024 15:28:08 GMT
Conversion has never been a worry of mine. Not sure why you’re bring it up with me. Vast majority of people here aren’t dim enough to convert to Islam. I like how the most aggressive character in Four Lions is a convert. That movie is funny in places but I found it a bit too close to the bone. Almost making light of a big problem.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on May 2, 2024 15:28:35 GMT
Conversion has never been a worry of mine. Not sure why you’re bring it up with me. Vast majority of people here aren’t dim enough to convert to Islam. I like how the most aggressive character in Four Lions is a convert. Converts to any religion are the most likely to be the most zealous.
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Post by Stammerhead on May 2, 2024 15:33:55 GMT
I like how the most aggressive character in Four Lions is a convert. That movie is funny in places but I found it a bit too close to the bone. Almost making light of a big problem. That’s Chris Morris for you. I’m often tempted to throw Paedogeddon into the anti-grooming threads.
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Post by Hnefahogg on May 2, 2024 15:54:16 GMT
I remember in ISIS prime years, it was claimed on TV that most of them were converts from Jewish and Christian families. Born Muslims would say that the crazies were always the converts. Although many Muslims seem to believe now that ISIS was created by Israel.
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