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Post by drystyx on May 7, 2024 16:54:54 GMT
Well, that makes him an accomplice to the murder of his son. He's definitively guilty of third degree homicide. The wife is dead, and so there's no trial for her. He's still alive, and he had a responsibility, and he knew he was abandoning his son, so that does make guilty of third degree homicide.
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Post by ayatollah on May 7, 2024 16:58:32 GMT
Well, that makes him an accomplice to the murder of his son. He's definitively guilty of third degree homicide. The wife is dead, and so there's no trial for her. He's still alive, and he had a responsibility, and he knew he was abandoning his son, so that does make guilty of third degree homicide. The judge should've given the dad temporary custody, so the judge is guilty of third degree murder.
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Post by drystyx on May 7, 2024 17:01:24 GMT
Not sure about that. Some people who do things considered "evil" may have thought that they really did work for the "greater good". Example: It's possible some SS officers really thought they did the world a favour by ridding it of Jews. Even the woman from this story who killed her three-year old and herself. Maybe she thought she was doing her kid a favour. I wouldn't know. The Nazis created an ideology, based in part on an old religious superstition, they were actually doing good by not being evil, but being ruthless in correcting a wrong world to a right one…in their infallible opinion. Just because delusional idiots like Weinberg want to believe something, that doesn't make it true. People do evil things from a demon of sadistic desire. With or without religion. If someone cherry picks one phrase from a bible to do something sadistic, the same person will cherry pick one other reason if he doesn't believe in the Bible. You and Weinberg know this, but you're so wrapped up in hate that you won't admit it.
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Post by drystyx on May 7, 2024 17:03:00 GMT
Well, that makes him an accomplice to the murder of his son. He's definitively guilty of third degree homicide. The wife is dead, and so there's no trial for her. He's still alive, and he had a responsibility, and he knew he was abandoning his son, so that does make guilty of third degree homicide. The judge should've given the dad temporary custody, so the judge is guilty of third degree murder. If the judge is accused and stands trial for that, he won't want me on his jury, because unless there's something we don't know yet or some misinformation in what we've been told, I would convict him on those grounds. The trouble is that judges are also lawyers, and lawyers are taught to forget justice and live by a stupid code that has no logic to it, just because someone in a robe told them to live by it. We need judges who are better stewards. Third degree murder, if he was convicted, the father and the judge would probably spend a few nights in jail and get probation, but more important, their chances to be stewards again would be a lot less.
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Post by ayatollah on May 7, 2024 17:03:18 GMT
The Nazis created an ideology, based in part on an old religious superstition, they were actually doing good by not being evil, but being ruthless in correcting a wrong world to a right one…in their infallible opinion. Just because delusional idiots like Weinberg want to believe something, that doesn't make it true. People do evil things from a demon of sadistic desire. With or without religion. If someone cherry picks one phrase from a bible to do something sadistic, the same person will cherry pick one other reason if he doesn't believe in the Bible. You and Weinberg know this, but you're so wrapped up in hate that you won't admit it. People use all kinds of reasons to justify evil acts, not just religion, and the use of said reasons don't necessarily make them evil by association.
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Post by ayatollah on May 7, 2024 17:18:22 GMT
The judge should've given the dad temporary custody, so the judge is guilty of third degree murder. If the judge is accused and stands trial for that, he won't want me on his jury, because unless there's something we don't know yet or some misinformation in what we've been told, I would convict him on those grounds. The trouble is that judges are also lawyers, and lawyers are taught to forget justice and live by a stupid code that has no logic to it, just because someone in a robe told them to live by it. We need judges who are better stewards. Third degree murder, if he was convicted, the father and the judge would probably spend a few nights in jail and get probation, but more important, their chances to be stewards again would be a lot less. The father wasn't the steward, at least I don't think so, maybe I missed to part where he had custody.
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Post by drystyx on May 7, 2024 17:26:54 GMT
If the judge is accused and stands trial for that, he won't want me on his jury, because unless there's something we don't know yet or some misinformation in what we've been told, I would convict him on those grounds. The trouble is that judges are also lawyers, and lawyers are taught to forget justice and live by a stupid code that has no logic to it, just because someone in a robe told them to live by it. We need judges who are better stewards. Third degree murder, if he was convicted, the father and the judge would probably spend a few nights in jail and get probation, but more important, their chances to be stewards again would be a lot less. The father wasn't the steward, at least I don't think so, maybe I missed to part where he had custody. He left his wife. He shouldn't have gotten married if he was going to leave his wife. He definitely shouldn't have had a son if he was going to leave his wife. Marriage is a lifetime commitment. If you can't handle that, then don't get married, or else be responsible for anything that happens when you leave your spouse. He gets no sympathy from me. Just another punk. Easy to forgive him, yes, but he's still responsible.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on May 7, 2024 17:39:04 GMT
The Nazis created an ideology, based in part on an old religious superstition, they were actually doing good by not being evil, but being ruthless in correcting a wrong world to a right one…in their infallible opinion. Just because delusional idiots like Weinberg want to believe something, that doesn't make it true. People do evil things from a demon of sadistic desire. With or without religion. If someone cherry picks one phrase from a bible to do something sadistic, the same person will cherry pick one other reason if he doesn't believe in the Bible. You and Weinberg know this, but you're so wrapped up in hate that you won't admit it. So you are saying all the folks who have abused, enslaved, and murdered people in the name God and/or Christ were/are just evils shits to begin with. Religion is poison because it asks us to give up our most precious faculty, which is that of reason, and to believe things without evidence. It then asks us to respect this, which it calls faith. - Christopher Hitchens
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Post by PaulsLaugh on May 7, 2024 17:59:44 GMT
Just because delusional idiots like Weinberg want to believe something, that doesn't make it true. People do evil things from a demon of sadistic desire. With or without religion. If someone cherry picks one phrase from a bible to do something sadistic, the same person will cherry pick one other reason if he doesn't believe in the Bible. You and Weinberg know this, but you're so wrapped up in hate that you won't admit it. People use all kinds of reasons to justify evil acts, not just religion, and the use of said reasons don't necessarily make them evil by association. But these are the Christians who make a point they are acting in righteousness per the instructions of the one true faith that Weinberg is referring to. They will do evil things if they think this is what my God wants. There is no way to excuse the centuries with waves of pogroms, inquisitions, witch-hunts, and genocides by saying Christians don’t do that anymore. The Good Christian who continues to associate with these Evil Christians and never calls them out for real, even if some of them are long dead, is failing their faith too. Another famous quote: If Christianity is so good and the only method, approved by God himself, to lead a properly moral life and guide a prosperous society, then why did the historical horror show happen? Sure some works in the name of Christianity has done a lot of good, so have otherwise atheistic enterprises, but not enough to eliminate the self-destructive, ticking implosion device at its core. You will never build the truth upon the foundation of a lie.
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Post by ayatollah on May 7, 2024 18:06:50 GMT
People use all kinds of reasons to justify evil acts, not just religion, and the use of said reasons don't necessarily make them evil by association. But these are the Christians who make a point they are acting in righteousness per the instructions of the one true faith that Weinberg is referring to. They will do evil things if they think this is what my God wants. There is no way to excuse the centuries with waves of pogroms, inquisitions, witch-hunts, and genocides by saying Christians don’t do that anymore. The Good Christian who continues to associate with these Evil Christians and never calls them out for real, even if some of them are long dead, is failing their faith too. Another famous quote: If Christianity is so good and the only method, approved by God himself, to lead a properly moral life and guide a prosperous society, then why did the historical horror show happen? Sure some works in the name of Christianity has done a lot of good, so have otherwise atheistic enterprises, but not enough to eliminate the self-destructive, ticking implosion device at its core. You will never build the truth upon the foundation of a lie. Soooo... you want Christianity to be destroyed? I'm not sure what you're talking about.
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Post by ayatollah on May 7, 2024 18:09:51 GMT
The father wasn't the steward, at least I don't think so, maybe I missed to part where he had custody. He left his wife. He shouldn't have gotten married if he was going to leave his wife. He definitely shouldn't have had a son if he was going to leave his wife. Marriage is a lifetime commitment. If you can't handle that, then don't get married, or else be responsible for anything that happens when you leave your spouse. He gets no sympathy from me. Just another punk. Easy to forgive him, yes, but he's still responsible. I disagree. Divorce shouldn't be over trivial matters but if she is crazy enough to kill a small child then her husband would've noticed, once he noticed he was correct to get out and try to get custody. You're not actually making an argument that he is somehow guilty for the wife murdering the kid. You are actually upset because you think marriage should be forever. That's an ideal but not practical.
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Post by thekindercarebear on May 7, 2024 18:13:14 GMT
Well, that makes him an accomplice to the murder of his son. He's definitively guilty of third degree homicide. The wife is dead, and so there's no trial for her. He's still alive, and he had a responsibility, and he knew he was abandoning his son, so that does make guilty of third degree homicide.
sorry man, while this was terrible, i cannot agree with you.
his ex wife made the decision to pull that trigger.
she could have just given up custody of the child to him or to the state if she couldn't take it anymore.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on May 7, 2024 18:14:44 GMT
But these are the Christians who make a point they are acting in righteousness per the instructions of the one true faith that Weinberg is referring to. They will do evil things if they think this is what my God wants. There is no way to excuse the centuries with waves of pogroms, inquisitions, witch-hunts, and genocides by saying Christians don’t do that anymore. The Good Christian who continues to associate with these Evil Christians and never calls them out for real, even if some of them are long dead, is failing their faith too. Another famous quote: If Christianity is so good and the only method, approved by God himself, to lead a properly moral life and guide a prosperous society, then why did the historical horror show happen? Sure some works in the name of Christianity has done a lot of good, so have otherwise atheistic enterprises, but not enough to eliminate the self-destructive, ticking implosion device at its core. You will never build the truth upon the foundation of a lie. Soooo... you want Christianity to be destroyed? I'm not sure what you're talking about. No. I want Christians to learn the truth about the world and not use an old book filled with myths and non-historical events as the literal Word of God. Doing that shouldn’t destroy their faith, if they have faith and not a superstition. If they really do start loving their neighbors and themselves, as they say they love God, the worldly religion part will take of itself.
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Post by Hairynosedwombat on May 7, 2024 18:35:12 GMT
Where's you sympathy for the murder of 15,000 children? You are the one with an endless supply of sympathy for the barbarians who start a war knowing fully well (and hoping for!) a response that will kill as many of their own people, all so that they can pose as victims for useful idiots abroad. Those barbarians are innocent children who you might blame for the war but I call victims.
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Post by SciFive on May 7, 2024 18:42:20 GMT
You are the one with an endless supply of sympathy for the barbarians who start a war knowing fully well (and hoping for!) a response that will kill as many of their own people, all so that they can pose as victims for useful idiots abroad. Those barbarians are innocent children who you might blame for the war but I call victims. Hamas is the barbarians he was referring to, and you know it. No one can save the Gazan civilians from Hamas until they (Hamas) are gone.
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