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Post by OldSamVimes on Jul 17, 2024 16:23:10 GMT
So isolationists who leave China and Russia alone will start wars, where as people like Biden and Nuland arming Ukraine to attack Russians will bring us peace with Russia? Huh? Make it make sense. I don’t think you understand what’s coming when Trump wins. Russia will be more emboldened than ever. Trump will poke Iran ever more and perhaps China, unless he wants a reset with the latter. More war will happen under Trump. He was already President for 4 years and the world didn't end. The worst that happened was the MSM jumped the shark for 4 years in an orgy of hysteria and melodrama.
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Post by Based Chad on Jul 17, 2024 16:27:20 GMT
So isolationists who leave China and Russia alone will start wars, where as people like Biden and Nuland arming Ukraine to attack Russians will bring us peace with Russia? Huh? Make it make sense. I don’t think you understand what’s coming when Trump wins. Russia will be more emboldened than ever. Trump will poke Iran ever more and perhaps China, unless he wants a reset with the latter. More war will happen under Trump. Erm...you're just drinking the Kool-aid. Trump was by far the most peaceful President in decades. Putin was emboldened when Biden was VP and even more when he was President. Trump had 63,000 troops in Europe....Biden has 100,000.
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Post by cts1 on Jul 17, 2024 16:34:29 GMT
This time he’ll appoint sycophants though, not folks who will try to steer him on the correct path. Only isolationist buttkissers which will doom the US and our allies to eventual full blown shooting wars with Russia and China in the near future. I hope you’re right, but I have my doubts. So isolationists who leave China and Russia alone will start wars, where as people like Biden and Nuland arming Ukraine to attack Russians will bring us peace with Russia? Huh? Make it make sense. Yeah, not a vatnik. Non-Vatnik proof, please? And if you are going to jabber "transcript of the Nuland phone call," quote the language you claim proves the truth of the matter asserted.
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Post by Harry Skywalker on Jul 17, 2024 16:35:32 GMT
I’m guessing by early 2025 Trump basically pulls the US out of NATO. Troops from throughout Europe come back to the States (I think a lot of Euros will love that part). Putin grins and tears through Ukraine in a summer 2025 offensive. Europe, left powerless to stop Russia, watches as Kiev falls. Donald Trump will NEVER pull the US out of NATO.
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Post by ofunknownorigins on Jul 17, 2024 16:38:14 GMT
I don’t think you understand what’s coming when Trump wins. Russia will be more emboldened than ever. Trump will poke Iran ever more and perhaps China, unless he wants a reset with the latter. More war will happen under Trump. He was already President for 4 years and the world didn't end. The worst that happened was the MSM jumped the shark for 4 years in an orgy of hysteria and melodrama. He assassinated Iran’s top general (I know he was a terrorist, but still), which nearly led to a full blown war with Iran.
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Post by OldSamVimes on Jul 17, 2024 16:39:09 GMT
He was already President for 4 years and the world didn't end. The worst that happened was the MSM jumped the shark for 4 years in an orgy of hysteria and melodrama. He assassinated Iran’s top general (I know he was a terrorist, but still), which nearly led to a full blown war with Iran. Now do all the shit that's happened on Biden's watch.. I know I know.. he's not really in charge at all so he can't be blamed.
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Post by ofunknownorigins on Jul 17, 2024 16:40:19 GMT
I’m guessing by early 2025 Trump basically pulls the US out of NATO. Troops from throughout Europe come back to the States (I think a lot of Euros will love that part). Putin grins and tears through Ukraine in a summer 2025 offensive. Europe, left powerless to stop Russia, watches as Kiev falls. Donald Trump will NEVER pull the US out of NATO.
He hates NATO and any European country that isn’t spending the agreed upon amount for their militaries. That might even include Portugal.
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Post by ofunknownorigins on Jul 17, 2024 16:41:06 GMT
He assassinated Iran’s top general (I know he was a terrorist, but still), which nearly led to a full blown war with Iran. Now do all the shit that's happened on Biden's watch.. I know I know.. he's not really in charge at all so he can't be blamed. Biden is weak, no argument from me about his failures.
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Post by hugsfromlv426 on Jul 17, 2024 16:41:42 GMT
Like when Putin decided to tear through Ukraine during Biden's presidency. And yet he couldn't.
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Post by Harry Skywalker on Jul 17, 2024 16:44:18 GMT
Donald Trump will NEVER pull the US out of NATO.
He hates NATO and any European country that isn’t spending the agreed upon amount for their militaries. That might even include Portugal. He doesn't hate NATO and he only wants to put the other countries to pay equivalent sums.
He will never pull the US out from NATO. He doesn't have any gain with that.
And you can't just pull out the US from NATO like that. That's not how it works.
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Post by Lux on Jul 17, 2024 16:47:16 GMT
Like when Putin decided to tear through Ukraine during Biden's presidency. And yet he couldn't. 131,000 dead Ukrainians and their children would disagree with you.
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Post by OldSamVimes on Jul 17, 2024 16:49:50 GMT
I’m guessing by early 2025 Trump basically pulls the US out of NATO. Troops from throughout Europe come back to the States (I think a lot of Euros will love that part). Putin grins and tears through Ukraine in a summer 2025 offensive. Europe, left powerless to stop Russia, watches as Kiev falls. Donald Trump will NEVER pull the US out of NATO.
Even if he doesn't do that.. he might take away your abortions and divorces!!! I know you get a lot of abortions, so you should be concerned and vote Democrat.
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Post by Based Chad on Jul 17, 2024 16:51:01 GMT
So isolationists who leave China and Russia alone will start wars, where as people like Biden and Nuland arming Ukraine to attack Russians will bring us peace with Russia? Huh? Make it make sense. Yeah, not a vatnik. Non-Vatnik proof, please? And if you are going to jabber "transcript of the Nuland phone call," quote the language you claim proves the truth of the matter asserted. Erm...you need source for me saying that Biden armed Ukraine? Seriously?
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Post by ofunknownorigins on Jul 17, 2024 16:51:24 GMT
He hates NATO and any European country that isn’t spending the agreed upon amount for their militaries. That might even include Portugal. He doesn't hate NATO and he only wants to put the other countries to pay equivalent sums. He will never pull the US out from NATO. He doesn't have any gain with that. And you can't just pull out the US from NATO like that. That's not how it works.
If he doesn’t withdraw outright, there will be a radical change, one of which will be the return of American combat troops leaving only air and naval assets of the U.S. www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/07/02/nato-second-trump-term-00164517
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Post by hugsfromlv426 on Jul 17, 2024 16:51:56 GMT
131,000 dead Ukrainians and their children would disagree with you. And still he didn't tear through the country like you claimed.
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