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Post by ofunknownorigins on Jul 17, 2024 13:43:44 GMT
I’m guessing by early 2025 Trump basically pulls the US out of NATO. Troops from throughout Europe come back to the States (I think a lot of Euros will love that part). Putin grins and tears through Ukraine in a summer 2025 offensive. Europe, left powerless to stop Russia, watches as Kiev falls.
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Post by Winter_King on Jul 17, 2024 13:47:10 GMT
I'll have to wait and see who is going into the Trump administration but if his second term is anything like the first one, not only NATO will remain intact, support for Ukraine will continue.
A lot money is going to the US weapons industry... I doubt Trump is going to stand in the way.
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Post by Fetzer Zinfandel ♀︎ on Jul 17, 2024 13:49:31 GMT
Not long at all. The average maga clutee doesn't have a clue what they are doing...
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jul 17, 2024 13:49:34 GMT
Always with the negative waves! ![](https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1574160061693587456/4vfv1-Vh_400x400.jpg)
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Post by Lux on Jul 17, 2024 13:50:00 GMT
Like when Putin decided to tear through Ukraine during Biden's presidency.
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Post by Fetzer Zinfandel ♀︎ on Jul 17, 2024 13:50:43 GMT
I'll have to wait and see who is going into the Trump administration but if his second term is anything like the first one, not only NATO will remain intact, support for Ukraine will continue. A lot money is going to the US weapons industry... I doubt Trump is going to stand in the way. You know Jared and Ivanka spent the first four years on daddy's behalf trying to see how they could parlay the weapons complex into trump money. They must have failed at joining that particular old white boys' club.
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Post by Fetzer Zinfandel ♀︎ on Jul 17, 2024 13:50:59 GMT
Always with the negative waves! ![](https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1574160061693587456/4vfv1-Vh_400x400.jpg) maga says what?
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Post by ofunknownorigins on Jul 17, 2024 13:51:21 GMT
I'll have to wait and see who is going into the Trump administration but if his second term is anything like the first one, not only NATO will remain intact, support for Ukraine will continue. A lot money is going to the US weapons industry... I doubt Trump is going to stand in the way. This time he’ll appoint sycophants though, not folks who will try to steer him on the correct path. Only isolationist buttkissers which will doom the US and our allies to eventual full blown shooting wars with Russia and China in the near future. I hope you’re right, but I have my doubts.
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Post by ofunknownorigins on Jul 17, 2024 13:51:55 GMT
Like when Putin decided to tear through Ukraine during Biden's presidency. Kiev hasn’t fallen and controls most Ukrainian territory.
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Post by Winter_King on Jul 17, 2024 13:52:40 GMT
I’m guessing by early 2025 Trump basically pulls the US out of NATO. Troops from throughout Europe come back to the States (I think a lot of Euros will love that part). Putin grins and tears through Ukraine in a summer 2025 offensive. Europe, left powerless to stop Russia, watches as Kiev falls. Well one of your best Presidents said this in 1951: “If in 10 years, all American troops stationed in Europe for national defense purposes have not been returned to the United States, then this whole project will have failed.” www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1997-jul-07-me-10464-story.htmlDon't look at the rest of the 1997 article because it's once again spreading Putin propaganda that NATO expansion is a mistake.
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Post by Winter_King on Jul 17, 2024 13:53:33 GMT
I'll have to wait and see who is going into the Trump administration but if his second term is anything like the first one, not only NATO will remain intact, support for Ukraine will continue. A lot money is going to the US weapons industry... I doubt Trump is going to stand in the way. This time he’ll appoint sycophants though, not folks who will try to steer him on the correct path. Only isolationist buttkissers which will doom the US and our allies to eventual full blown shooting wars with Russia and China in the near future. I hope you’re right, but I have my doubts. JD Vance is a China hawk.
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Post by Lux on Jul 17, 2024 13:54:28 GMT
Like when Putin decided to tear through Ukraine during Biden's presidency. Kiev hasn’t fallen and controls most Ukrainian territory. 😂
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jul 17, 2024 13:58:09 GMT
Always with the negative waves! ![](https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1574160061693587456/4vfv1-Vh_400x400.jpg) maga says what? Go ask a maga, you stupid, stupid bitch.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jul 17, 2024 14:01:55 GMT
Go ask a maga, you stupid, stupid bitch. I need some help here. What part of.... I am not voting for Trump.....is impossible for stupid people to understand? I have explained it every way that I know how, and I can't dumb it down any more. Help me to find the right words, please.
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Post by ofunknownorigins on Jul 17, 2024 14:08:24 GMT
I’m guessing by early 2025 Trump basically pulls the US out of NATO. Troops from throughout Europe come back to the States (I think a lot of Euros will love that part). Putin grins and tears through Ukraine in a summer 2025 offensive. Europe, left powerless to stop Russia, watches as Kiev falls. Well one of your best Presidents said this in 1951: “If in 10 years, all American troops stationed in Europe for national defense purposes have not been returned to the United States, then this whole project will have failed.” www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1997-jul-07-me-10464-story.htmlDon't look at the rest of the 1997 article because it's once again spreading Putin propaganda that NATO expansion is a mistake. Eisenhower probably assumed Europe would be able to stand on its own. That never transpired as Soviet power grew. And it still can’t stand on its own. Putin’s choice to attack Ukraine isn’t the fault of NATO. The Russians elected a fascist and kept re-electing him. That was the problem. Russia won’t ever be a liberal democracy. It doesn’t work in their culture which prefers the strongman.
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