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Post by faustus5 on Nov 25, 2024 2:39:43 GMT
Humans beings did not "make up" religion. Religion evolved over time as an explanation for already existent spiritual feelings. Possessed by many. That is completely consistent with religion being made up by humans. In fact, that is exactly what we should expect.
This is just nonsense you spouted because you think you are saying something profound, when in fact you area saying nothing.
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Post by movieliker on Nov 25, 2024 2:41:19 GMT
Once again, you are talking about religious organizations. Not religion. Santa Claus was not originally created for capitalistic reasons. But I agree he has been usurped by capitalism as a marketing tool. Religion was not organizational at first. Religious organizations and religion are different. I believe in religion. I don't belong to a religious organization. Again, let's stop talking religion. What you say here affects no one. No one is changing their mind because of what you say. Let it go. Live and let live. I'm not trying to change anybody's mind. |
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Post by movieliker on Nov 25, 2024 2:42:12 GMT
Humans beings did not "make up" religion. Religion evolved over time as an explanation for already existent spiritual feelings. Possessed by many. That is completely consistent with religion being made up by humans. In fact, that is exactly what we should expect.
This is just nonsense you spouted because you think you are saying something profound, when in fact you area saying nothing.
I am saying a lot. You are just not smart enough to see it. |
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Post by scream on Nov 25, 2024 2:43:48 GMT
Again, let's stop talking religion. What you say here affects no one. No one is changing their mind because of what you say. Let it go. Live and let live. I'm not trying to change anybody's mind. After 34 pages? Whatever. Let it go. I'm done with it. |
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Post by movieliker on Nov 25, 2024 2:50:01 GMT
I'm not trying to change anybody's mind. After 34 pages? Whatever. Let it go. I'm done with it. Then you get out of here. Other people are talking. |
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Post by scream on Nov 25, 2024 2:53:12 GMT
After 34 pages? Whatever. Let it go. I'm done with it. Then you get out of here. Other people are talking. Other people are telling you to shut up. And as of now, you are on Block. |
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Post by abbey1227 on Nov 25, 2024 2:58:00 GMT
After 34 pages? Whatever. Let it go. I'm done with it. Then you get out of here. Other people are talking.
34 pages?
Keep it up.
Eventually you may have your own Bible here
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Post by faustus5 on Nov 25, 2024 3:16:27 GMT
I am saying a lot. You are just not smart enough to see it. You are saying nothing. You are just too stupid, uneducated, and delusional to see it.
People like you, who never read books or have the slightest intellectual curiosity to learn what scholars throughout history have explored. . .you are an embarrassment to our culture.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Nov 25, 2024 3:17:00 GMT
While Santa is made up, he wasn’t made up necessarily to entertain children. He is actually far more complex and currently used as an important major marketing tool that increases the US GDP and wealth. Our economy can be adversely affected if there isn’t a healthy Christmas buying season. That’s how important Santa is. Jesus is too in this same context. However, a modern mythical Santa can cross religious boundaries. Santa Claus starts out modeled after a legendary bishop Saint Nicholas who helped poor children during the time the Church celebrated the birth of Jesus in its calendar. But this story was most popular in parts of Northern Europe where modern capitalism began. Later on, St Nick becomes Father Christmas or Santa Claus with a lot of Odin lore that had long existed in these regions tossed in. Humans created religion as a result of trying to explain their spiritual experience.I agree, just like they created Santa. But religion is used to keep the spiritual beliefs that underpin the religion to stop spiritual development in order to homogenize the beliefs and mores as a means stabilizing a society. Santa Claus was not originally created for capitalistic reasons. But I agree he has been usurped by capitalism as a marketing tool. Religion was not organizational at first. Religious organizations and religion are different. I believe in religion. I don't belong to a religious organization. You can’t decouple one from the other. What religion does is codify and empower supernatural thinking. Pre-religion is merely a particular culture’s myths and superstitions set down in writing of some sort. You might not belong to any religious organization, but you are certainly following the teachings of one or more of them. The Church essentially edited the Bible as we read it today nearly four hundred years after Jesus. You accept it on faith the Churchmen got it right, therefore you are institutionalized by a religious organization. |
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Post by movieliker on Nov 25, 2024 3:23:23 GMT
Once again, you are talking about religious organizations. Not religion. Santa Claus was not originally created for capitalistic reasons. But I agree he has been usurped by capitalism as a marketing tool. Religion was not organizational at first. Religious organizations and religion are different. I believe in religion. I don't belong to a religious organization. You can’t decouple one from the other. What religion does is codify and empower supernatural thinking. Pre-religion is merely a particular culture’s myths and superstitions set down in writing of some sort. You might not belong to any religious organization, but you are certainly following the teachings of one or more of them. The Church essentially edited the Bible as we read it today nearly four hundred years after Jesus. You accept it on faith the Churchmen got it right, therefore you are institutionalized by a religious organization. Absolutely you can decouple. People like you hate religion because of what religious organizations have done. Otherwise you wouldn't be on such a crusade against religion. But since YOU WON'T DECOUPLE, you don't realize you personally have no problem with religion, your problem is with organized religion. |
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Post by abbey1227 on Nov 25, 2024 3:24:31 GMT
You can’t decouple one from the other. What religion does is codify and empower supernatural thinking. Pre-religion is merely a particular culture’s myths and superstitions set down in writing of some sort. You might not belong to any religious organization, but you are certainly following the teachings of one or more of them. The Church essentially edited the Bible as we read it today nearly four hundred years after Jesus. You accept it on faith the Churchmen got it right, therefore you are institutionalized by a religious organization. Absolutely you can decouple. People like you hate religion because if what religious organizations have done. Otherwise you wouldn't be on such a crusade against religion. But since YOU WON'T DECOUPLE, you don't realize you personally have no problem with religion, your problem is with organized religion.
They're also often perfectly fine with Govt.........despite what Govt has done in the past and continues to do. ![[shrug]](http://storage.proboards.com/6870873/images/GNdzQKpfkkHBBwUPdCiE.gif) |
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Post by movieliker on Nov 25, 2024 3:25:07 GMT
I am saying a lot. You are just not smart enough to see it. You are saying nothing. You are just too stupid, uneducated, and delusional to see it.
People like you, who never read books or have the slightest intellectual curiosity to learn what scholars throughout history have explored. . .you are an embarrassment to our culture.
Blah, blah, blah . . . Who really cares what faustus thinks? Nobody except maybe faustus. 😁😄🤣 🫵🫵🫵 |
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Post by movieliker on Nov 25, 2024 3:26:45 GMT
Absolutely you can decouple. People like you hate religion because if what religious organizations have done. Otherwise you wouldn't be on such a crusade against religion. But since YOU WON'T DECOUPLE, you don't realize you personally have no problem with religion, your problem is with organized religion. They're also often perfectly fine with Govt.........despite what Govt has done in the past and continues to do. Good point. Maybe that is their religion. |
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Post by faustus5 on Nov 25, 2024 3:30:09 GMT
Blah, blah, blah . . . Who really cares what faustus thinks? Nobody except maybe faustus. 😁😄🤣 🫵🫵🫵 All you can do is run for the hills when confronted with people who actually understand how complex these issues actually are.
As I observed before, you really come across as a deeply ignorant and arrogant grade school student. If you are actually older than this, you have a lot to be embarrassed about.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Nov 25, 2024 3:31:36 GMT
You can’t decouple one from the other. What religion does is codify and empower supernatural thinking. Pre-religion is merely a particular culture’s myths and superstitions set down in writing of some sort. You might not belong to any religious organization, but you are certainly following the teachings of one or more of them. The Church essentially edited the Bible as we read it today nearly four hundred years after Jesus. You accept it on faith the Churchmen got it right, therefore you are institutionalized by a religious organization. Absolutely you can decouple. People like you hate religion because of what religious organizations have done. Otherwise you wouldn't be on such a crusade against religion. But since YOU WON'T DECOUPLE, you don't realize you personally have no problem with religion, your problem is with organized religion. If you believe in Christianity and its dogma, then you are institutionalized whether you officially have a membership. You were baptized, I’m assuming. If so, you belong to the Church Universal. People like you hate religion because of what religious organizations have done.I don’t hate religion, nor am I on crusade about it. |
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