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Post by Colin Sibthorpe on Feb 20, 2018 2:12:01 GMT
What can I say? Devoted as I am to this board I'm not going to reproduce an 800 page book! There were lots of messages every day, we attack here, we attack there, we attack this other place, and the operators intercepting the messages had no idea which were true and which were not. We have hindsight, they didn't.
Maybe it's a bit like the Titanic, where all the "see you at the party," "have my private train ready," "buy gold, sell wheat" messages drowned out the "warning, large icebergs reported unusually far south this season" message.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2018 8:14:16 GMT
in WW2: City | American | British | Berlin | 22,090 | 45,517 | Hamburg | 17,104 | 22,583 | Munich | 11,471 | 7,858 | Cologne | 10,211 | 34,712 | Leipzig | 5,410 | 6,206 | Essen | 1,518 | 36,420 | Dresden | 4,441 | 2,659 | TOTAL | 72,245 | 155,955 |
I think we can see what happened here. It seems the much vaunted Luftwaffe weren't as effective as the RAF
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Post by ayatollah on Feb 20, 2018 15:22:10 GMT
What can I say? Devoted as I am to this board I'm not going to reproduce an 800 page book! There were lots of messages every day, we attack here, we attack there, we attack this other place, and the operators intercepting the messages had no idea which were true and which were not. Okay, I see.
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Post by My NoRevisionism Pillow on Feb 20, 2018 17:56:19 GMT
in WW2: City | American | British | Berlin | 22,090 | 45,517 | Hamburg | 17,104 | 22,583 | Munich | 11,471 | 7,858 | Cologne | 10,211 | 34,712 | Leipzig | 5,410 | 6,206 | Essen | 1,518 | 36,420 | Dresden | 4,441 | 2,659 | TOTAL | 72,245 | 155,955 |
I think we can see what happened here. Lancasters could carry a higher bomb-load then B-24's or B-17's, and the British bombed mostly at night For daylight bombing the American bombers carried 10 to 13 .50 cal machine guns + ammunition for protection, this in itself reduced the American bombers bomb-load.
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Post by ZolotoyRetriever on Feb 20, 2018 20:13:42 GMT
My NoRevisionism Pillow, I sometimes wonder how many .50 cal bullets and shells are still lying around the fields and forests of Germany? I mean, there must've been millions of rounds fired off that had to fall to earth somewhere, right? It's just one of those idle thoughts I have about the aftermath of the war. (and yes, I know there's still unexploded bombs to be found here and there, too...)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2018 20:15:21 GMT
My NoRevisionism Pillow , I sometimes wonder how many .50 cal bullets and shells are still lying around the fields and forests of Germany? I mean, there must've been millions of rounds fired off that had to fall to earth somewhere, right? It's just one of those idle thoughts I have about the aftermath of the war. (and yes, I know there's still unexploded bombs to be found here and there, too...) Probably not as many as you may think- when the planes went down the explosion probably set off all the ammo on the bombers and fighters.
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Post by ZolotoyRetriever on Feb 20, 2018 21:27:10 GMT
My NoRevisionism Pillow , I sometimes wonder how many .50 cal bullets and shells are still lying around the fields and forests of Germany? I mean, there must've been millions of rounds fired off that had to fall to earth somewhere, right? It's just one of those idle thoughts I have about the aftermath of the war. (and yes, I know there's still unexploded bombs to be found here and there, too...) Probably not as many as you may think- when the planes went down the explosion probably set off all the ammo on the bombers and fighters. Yes, that's true, but I'm referring to the machine gun rounds that were fired while up in the air, as they were under attack. I figure the majority of the rounds fired must've sailed off into the distance, falling to earth somewhere (i.e., not all of them hit their target):
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Post by My NoRevisionism Pillow on Feb 20, 2018 21:46:09 GMT
Probably not as many as you may think- when the planes went down the explosion probably set off all the ammo on the bombers and fighters. Yes, that's true, but I'm referring to the machine gun rounds that were fired while up in the air, as they were under attack. I figure the majority of the rounds fired must've sailed off into the distance, falling to earth somewhere (i.e., not all of them hit their target):
probably an uncountable number of spent casings rained down on Europe
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