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Post by Lilith on Jul 27, 2019 21:50:14 GMT
That would make humans a virus because a fetus needs a host and cannot survive without one. No. Humans do not require another species to reproduce. Humans can reproduce with other members of the same species. The alien cannot. It needs a host of a different species. That's a virus. By that definition, any disease in the human body would qualify as well. We also only know what we've seen with regards to the state, but we've not seen the evolution. How did this originate? |
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Post by Lilith on Jul 27, 2019 21:51:10 GMT
The Xenomorph does reproduce on it's own. It lays eggs. How they incubate is irrelevant. That's like saying birds aren't alive because they uses nests. Yeah, the eggs. It isn't always a face hugger. As subsequent Alien movies came out, we saw a variety of states of "reproduction". |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2019 21:51:48 GMT
Flies lay eggs in meat.
So maggots are a virus then?
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Post by Lilith on Jul 27, 2019 21:56:52 GMT
I looked up: "Is a virus alive?" and this is what I got:
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Jul 27, 2019 22:04:57 GMT
Flies lay eggs in meat. So maggots are a virus then? A fly egg can hatch without the meat and produce a new fly. The meat is just food, not an integral part of is reproduction. An alien egg cannot produce a new egg-laying alien without a host of another species. That's a virus. |
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Jul 27, 2019 22:06:26 GMT
I looked up: "Is a virus alive?" and this is what I got: Yup. Interesting theory, huh? (And what this thread has been all about.) :) |
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Post by Lilith on Jul 27, 2019 22:41:25 GMT
I looked up: "Is a virus alive?" and this is what I got: Yup. Interesting theory, huh? (And what this thread has been all about.)  You raise some very valid points, and I can see how that's definitely a possibility. I'm still not necessarily convinced because we haven't gone back far enough in time to determine the evolution of the Alien and earlier propagation. Plus, it demonstrates what I deem to be a level of sentient awareness. Even things like maternal instincts, which a virus would not posses, are evident. How would you explain that aspect? |
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Jul 27, 2019 22:49:19 GMT
You raise some very valid points, and I can see how that's definitely a possibility. It's not a possibility, it is. I don't have to explain it. There's a definition for being alive. The end. |
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Post by Power Ranger on Jul 28, 2019 19:41:56 GMT
Hmm, actually wait a second. Viruses actually don't die, but they can become dormant. At least within the human host. But it still doesn't explain the entire procreation thing, and in the movie, some of the creatures in various forms actually do die. Nothing to do with dying. But, an organism that cannot reproduce on its own and requires another species to do so is a virus. Anything that cannot reproduce on its own is not considered to be alive - viruses are not considered to be alive. Even though this thing is huge and runs around doing stuff, which would make you think it is obviously alive, it cannot reproduce on its own, which means it is a virus which means it cannot be classified as a living organism. Is the emerald cockroach wasp a virus? en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerald_cockroach_wasp |
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Post by Power Ranger on Aug 14, 2019 17:23:31 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 17:34:33 GMT
I'd like to congratulate Lilith for humouring the fool this long.  |
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