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Post by WarrenPeace on May 3, 2023 19:08:50 GMT
I don't think allegations should be enough to win a court case or put any alleged rapists behind bars. Scenario: I am divorcing my gold digging wife who does not get a penny because of our pre nup. She wants to get back at me and claims I raped her after the divorce. I can go to jail for that, just based on her false accusations, and that is not right. There should be physical evidence before any rape claim goes to criminal and/or civil court. Agree or disagree? I’m gonna disagree. I wish there was a way to prove that Casey Anthony‘s father raped her like she accused him of. You are bringing up someone where the majority, I think, killed her baby. So if they think she lied about that they probably won't believe her on anything. Again, we need physical evidence to support rape allegations.
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Post by Just Casey on May 3, 2023 19:12:04 GMT
I’m gonna disagree. I wish there was a way to prove that Casey Anthony‘s father raped her like she accused him of. You are bringing up someone where the majority, I think, killed her baby. So if they think she lied about that they probably won't believe her on anything. Again, we need physical evidence to support rape allegations. I get what you are saying. They would blame her even if he admitted to it.
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Post by WarrenPeace on May 3, 2023 19:19:08 GMT
You are bringing up someone where the majority, I think, killed her baby. So if they think she lied about that they probably won't believe her on anything. Again, we need physical evidence to support rape allegations. I get what you are saying. They would blame her even if he admitted to it. I love your name change!
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Post by Just Casey on May 3, 2023 19:20:10 GMT
I get what you are saying. They would blame her even if he admitted to it. I love your name change! Thanks. 😀
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Post by merh on May 3, 2023 21:30:26 GMT
If you raped her after the divorce, where is the rape kit backing her up? I assume you have the brains to not have had sex with her so the rape exam would show no evidence of sexual intercourse. Isn't this backing up my point in the OP? That there should be evidence of rape before bringing it to criminal and civil trial. My cell phone would show that I saw her at her new place, if I had it with me, to pick up the kids. That does not mean that I raped her though. If it is that contentious, mutually approved public drop off points are used. Like a McDonald's or some such. You are divorced so it isn't spousal or date rape
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on May 3, 2023 22:47:45 GMT
I don't think allegations should be enough to win a court case or put any alleged rapists behind bars. Scenario: I am divorcing my gold digging wife who does not get a penny because of our pre nup. She wants to get back at me and claims I raped her after the divorce. I can go to jail for that, just based on her false accusations, and that is not right. There should be physical evidence before any rape claim goes to criminal and/or civil court. Agree or disagree? Laws were made before we had the ability to process all the evidence we can today. And sometimes women don't report the rape right away but the guilty are still guilty and should be punished. OTOH, women use rape accusations as leverage to get what they want. I had an employee who admitted to me she falsely accused her husband of rape during the divorce to take everything. She laughed about it but I don't think it's funny. I think the only solution is judges need to use their best judgement, look at the criminal history, consider if the woman stands to gain financially or otherwise, and err on the side of caution. Yet guilt still has to be proven and how is that achieved based on hearsay without solid/valid evidence? Judges are not always impartial either.
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on May 3, 2023 23:58:18 GMT
I don't think allegations should be enough to win a court case or put any alleged rapists behind bars. Scenario: I am divorcing my gold digging wife who does not get a penny because of our pre nup. She wants to get back at me and claims I raped her after the divorce. I can go to jail for that, just based on her false accusations, and that is not right. There should be physical evidence before any rape claim goes to criminal and/or civil court. Agree or disagree? How do you prove it when it is almost always he said/she said in the case of spousal/date rape? My husband was drunk. I said no. He got his anyway. When I pointed it out the next morning he had raped me, he said no court would touch him because it was his marital right as my husband to have sex with his wife when he wanted to. Any since it was around 1980 yeah. A lot of states didnt prosecute rapes in marriages. But go on & feel sorry about people like Donald Trump who is on record Bragging he did stuff like what he did.
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on May 4, 2023 0:05:22 GMT
I don't think allegations should be enough to win a court case or put any alleged rapists behind bars. Scenario: I am divorcing my gold digging wife who does not get a penny because of our pre nup. She wants to get back at me and claims I raped her after the divorce. I can go to jail for that, just based on her false accusations, and that is not right. There should be physical evidence before any rape claim goes to criminal and/or civil court. Agree or disagree? How many people are convicted of rape without evidence? Can you even be charged without evidence? I believe in extremely harsh punishments for rape - it's the worst thing you can do to a person - but I'm also not a fan of ruining someone's life without evidence. How do you define the worst thing you do to a person? I’d say murder would be worst and unless any accusation of rape is reported first hand providing evidence, (have you seen The Accused with Jodie Foster?), then much of what is claimed cannot be made completely reliable. Too many false sexually violent accusations undermine the genuine cases.
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Post by merh on May 4, 2023 0:20:04 GMT
How do you prove it when it is almost always he said/she said in the case of spousal/date rape? My husband was drunk. I said no. He got his anyway. When I pointed it out the next morning he had raped me, he said no court would touch him because it was his marital right as my husband to have sex with his wife when he wanted to. Any since it was around 1980 yeah. A lot of states didnt prosecute rapes in marriages. But go on & feel sorry about people like Donald Trump who is on record Bragging he did stuff like what he did. So my client who was locked in a car trunk & driven to another state by his boyfriend-no proof/didn't happen?
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Post by abbey1227 on May 4, 2023 0:40:08 GMT
So my client who was locked in a car trunk & driven to another state by his boyfriend-no proof/didn't happen?
Too few details to determine whether it was true or not.
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Post by blacktothefuture on May 4, 2023 0:43:50 GMT
There always is more evidence before a rape goes to criminal court I’m pretty sure - I don’t think they can just bring charges against someone without any other evidence than just someone saying “I was raped”. The standard isn’t as high in civil court I don’t believe, but I’m not a lawyer. tell that to the Duke Lacrosse players. or the Central Park Five.
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Post by Meseia on May 4, 2023 2:52:48 GMT
Laws were made before we had the ability to process all the evidence we can today. And sometimes women don't report the rape right away but the guilty are still guilty and should be punished. OTOH, women use rape accusations as leverage to get what they want. I had an employee who admitted to me she falsely accused her husband of rape during the divorce to take everything. She laughed about it but I don't think it's funny. I think the only solution is judges need to use their best judgement, look at the criminal history, consider if the woman stands to gain financially or otherwise, and err on the side of caution. Yet guilt still has to be proven and how is that achieved based on hearsay without solid/valid evidence? Judges are not always impartial either. The same way people are/were convicted without solid evidence. Innocent people have spent decades in prison. In all, or almost all, cases it was a rush to judgement, racism, or simple indifference. In theory, one doesn't have to prove innocence but in practice, the public is simple minded and assume an accusation means guilt so every defense attorney will tell you an alternative story for the jury is a must. Look at the posts on this forum, or on social media, people get angry over fake news headlines, and some will never change their mind. Once a prosecutor believes someone is guilty, it takes 100x more evidence to convince them they have the wrong person.
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on May 4, 2023 3:30:41 GMT
So my client who was locked in a car trunk & driven to another state by his boyfriend-no proof/didn't happen? Was there evidence?
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Post by slowcomingwarbird on May 4, 2023 3:44:57 GMT
So you blame it on your wife as to the reason why you are so twisted around backwards. After all you stuck that low hanging fruit right out there for target practice. Family drama is not the same as Donald Trump's indiscretions (rape) in an elevator. Yeah, let's always believe the words of a victim because men are scum and throw the innocent in jail because it is better to be safe than sorry. More like Peter Rabbit got caught with his pants down examining his lipstick. www.yahoo.com/news/expert-trump-accuser-shows-signs-172655751.html
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Post by kuatorises on May 4, 2023 11:54:17 GMT
With the pressure put on by police and/or the DA they can get you to admit you killed Hoffa. This is a baseless argument. Unless, you know, you have evidence...
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