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Post by Power Ranger on May 12, 2023 8:34:31 GMT
For starters - I'm not a 'lib' as you say, like a slur. The primary reason I, as someone from a very heavily invested and strategically aligned nation to the USA completely dislike Trump is that he is a narcissistic buffoon with the mentality of a spoiled child. The fact he so brazenly lies, and then not only does he regularly get caught lying, he then doubles down - makes him a dangerous person in such a position of responsibility. The epitome of his bravado was his speech at the UN - when he boldly (and exceedingly inaccurately) claimed that “My administration has accomplished more than almost any administration in the history of our country,” and was surprised by the laughter as a reaction. He subsequently claimed that he intended it as a joke, but then claimed again about his 'accomplishments' in a serious tone. The fact is, many of Trump's 'accomplishments' are either exaggerated claims, complete falsehoods or worse, outcomes from policies that can only be attributed to the previous administration. Trump’s lies mostly concern exaggeration and are often times simple figures of speech, eg. ‘more than anyone before’.
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Post by lunda2222 on May 12, 2023 8:46:20 GMT
While it's true I don't liker him, that has nothing to do with how I would have voted (if I could vote in the US).
Liking a person has nothing to do with how I vote.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2023 9:54:59 GMT
I am indifferent to Trump.
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Post by Stammerhead on May 12, 2023 10:00:05 GMT
Is there a reason why people should like him? As I see it there’s no reason why people should like me so I don’t understand what makes him so special.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2023 10:04:48 GMT
Is there a reason why people should like him? As I see it there’s no reason why people should like me so I don’t understand what makes him so special. He is special, "gold", as he himself once put it to Pistachiobrain. To me, he is just orange.
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Post by Stammerhead on May 12, 2023 10:11:16 GMT
Is there a reason why people should like him? As I see it there’s no reason why people should like me so I don’t understand what makes him so special. He is special, "gold", as he himself once put it to Pistachiobrain. To me, he is just orange. Mostly orange…
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Post by Olaf Plunket on May 12, 2023 10:30:05 GMT
Fat Donnie trump is a corrupt, amoral, greedy cunt, a sexual predator, a braggart, a boor, a serial liar and a malignant narcissist. That specific enough for you? So those are not qualities you admire?
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Post by merh on May 12, 2023 10:44:10 GMT
Donald Trump is a con man. He lies. He doesn't pay people. He only cares about himself.
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Post by ayatollah on May 12, 2023 11:31:17 GMT
Libs? Millions of conservatives also don't like him. Republicans in congress don't like him. Hell, even Tucker Carlson and most of Fox News can't stand him and what you've seen on air has been an act. He's disliked because he's simply all about him and immature as hell. He can't step outside of himself for even a minute. But he has a cult of idiot voters behind him, and THAT is what right-wing media and the GOP is afraid of losing. That is what they bend over backwards for. Oh you mean the voters like him. There's a name for that, democracy.
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Post by DalekFred on May 12, 2023 11:59:54 GMT
Specific … sure.
I do not like Trump because no matter how badly he, you, or any of the crimson hat clown car may want it to happen, Nicholas Cage will never play a specific Wakondan Jaguar-themed King married to X-Men leader, Ororo Munroe.
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Post by mikemonger on May 12, 2023 12:18:27 GMT
For starters - I'm not a 'lib' as you say, like a slur. The primary reason I, as someone from a very heavily invested and strategically aligned nation to the USA completely dislike Trump is that he is a narcissistic buffoon with the mentality of a spoiled child. The fact he so brazenly lies, and then not only does he regularly get caught lying, he then doubles down - makes him a dangerous person in such a position of responsibility. The epitome of his bravado was his speech at the UN - when he boldly (and exceedingly inaccurately) claimed that “My administration has accomplished more than almost any administration in the history of our country,” and was surprised by the laughter as a reaction. He subsequently claimed that he intended it as a joke, but then claimed again about his 'accomplishments' in a serious tone. The fact is, many of Trump's 'accomplishments' are either exaggerated claims, complete falsehoods or worse, outcomes from policies that can only be attributed to the previous administration. This. I mean. All politicians lie. It's what they do. But Trump is the only one in this country's history that seems to make a point of lying at every opportunity. And they're not even good lies. They're easily disprovable. And like you said, he's a thin skinned man-child. Not the kind if person you want to give power and responsibility to.
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Post by Fetzer Zinfandel ♀︎ on May 12, 2023 12:22:07 GMT
He lies non-stop. He doesn't seem to be able to stop himself. He lies even when he sees the damage his lies are doing. He's a malignant narcissist. He does not believe in our republic, or in elections. He attempted a high tech coup. He's ill tempered. He's cruel. He's a whore. His actions and statements make us the laughing stock of the world. He's dishonest. He's uncouth. He's not very smart. He likes dishonest people, and surrounds himself with dishonest people. He shapes his "beliefs" (if he has any) to the crowd he's trying to impress. (Note for example: he's not "pro-life" anymore, after being "pro-choice".)
I could go on and on, really.
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Post by theBROKEdontrump on May 12, 2023 12:28:31 GMT
He's a white supremacist.
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Post by merh on May 12, 2023 13:10:25 GMT
Libs? Millions of conservatives also don't like him. Republicans in congress don't like him. Hell, even Tucker Carlson and most of Fox News can't stand him and what you've seen on air has been an act. He's disliked because he's simply all about him and immature as hell. He can't step outside of himself for even a minute. But he has a cult of idiot voters behind him, and THAT is what right-wing media and the GOP is afraid of losing. That is what they bend over backwards for. Oh you mean the voters like him. There's a name for that, democracy. You mean he won the electoral system once? 2016 Turnout 60.1% Donald Trump Electoral vote 304 States carried 30 + ME-02 Popular vote 62,984,828Percentage 46.1% Hillary Clinton Electoral vote 227 States carried 20 + DC Popular vote 65,853,514Percentage 48.2% 2020 Turnout 66.6% Joe Biden Electoral vote 306 States carried 25 + DC + NE-02 Popular vote 81,283,501Percentage 51.3% Donald Trump Electoral vote 232 States carried 25 + ME-02 Popular vote 74,223,975Percentage 46.8% DONALD TRUMP LOST THE POPULAR VOTE IN BOTH ELECTIONS. Sorry. He isn't Popular with "the people" He has a percentage that love him. He has a group that votes against the other side.
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Post by shimrod on May 12, 2023 13:30:05 GMT
This is some of most hypocritical shit I've read in a while.
'He has a massive ego and the media knows he brings in the ratings'
'Now, the job of media is for viewers...NOT truth.'. 'So, they play upon the fears and ignorance of their target audience. And the left in the west today is almost entirely emotional based'
What? You've just described the Right to a tee.... Not the 'left'.....
'Because of this, they are VERY easy to fall prey for pretty much any narrative.' MAGA's and QANON's were convinced JFK was going to be 'resurrected', among other completely outlandish conspiracy theories.....
'So... the outlets bring up story after story about him being evil top to bottom (despite many of them liking the guy (which they often deny) in the past) and their audience eats it up.' So news outlets are not supposed to make articles about the things he says and does - even if they are truly "evil" ? Really ?
'While it gets ratings/revenue, it also warps the (admittedly) juvenile minds who still are naive enough to believe the media in this day and age.' You've literally just described MAGA and QANON.
'Truly.. if you compare most of the criteria to measure a president (foreign policy, the economy, energy policy, inflation, national security (border), etc).. Trump has scored higher than most recent presidents.' Trump is genuinely considered a worse president than George W. Bush, and that is saying something. Most of the things you listed, USA actually went backwards, despite Trump's best efforts.
'In light of this, the resistance to him is emotional based...not intellectual.' Most political historians, you know, intellectuals, have Trump in the worst 5 Presidents of all time.
'Some contend its because he succeeded and did so opposing their ideology so that really angered them further.' And these people are called Trump supporters, who despite significant evidence to the contrary, contend he is the saviour of America akin to the second coming of Jesus Christ.
You're going to have a massive ego and be a narcissist if you're running for United States President. Trump's personality is within the job he applied for. A monk is having nothing to do with that job. You mean it's normal for a President or presidential candidate to claim massive fraud when they lose an election? I don't recall that happening very often.
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