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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2023 21:05:51 GMT
For starters - I'm not a 'lib' as you say, like a slur. The primary reason I, as someone from a very heavily invested and strategically aligned nation to the USA completely dislike Trump is that he is a narcissistic buffoon with the mentality of a spoiled child. The fact he so brazenly lies, and then not only does he regularly get caught lying, he then doubles down - makes him a dangerous person in such a position of responsibility. The epitome of his bravado was his speech at the UN - when he boldly (and exceedingly inaccurately) claimed that “My administration has accomplished more than almost any administration in the history of our country,” and was surprised by the laughter as a reaction. He subsequently claimed that he intended it as a joke, but then claimed again about his 'accomplishments' in a serious tone. The fact is, many of Trump's 'accomplishments' are either exaggerated claims, complete falsehoods or worse, outcomes from policies that can only be attributed to the previous administration. Actions are louder than words and so what if Trump used those words? Biden is taking us closer to WWIII than Trump ever even dreamed about. Those actions are far worse than anything Trump ever said. Remember when people used to laugh at the offended religious right? Remember when the left hated and protested war? Remember when the left was for the common man. Those were the days, huh?
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Post by WarrenPeace on May 12, 2023 21:08:04 GMT
You're going to have a massive ego and be a narcissist if you're running for United States President. Trump's personality is within the job he applied for. A monk is having nothing to do with that job. You mean it's normal for a President or presidential candidate to claim massive fraud when they lose an election? I don't recall that happening very often. Hilldog and the DummyNutsCrackpots did it by making up Russian Collusion which was a witch hunt and a lie.
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Post by dlancer on May 12, 2023 21:14:44 GMT
Because he's a loser.
Three elections in a row now.
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Post by mrellaguru on May 12, 2023 21:30:43 GMT
Actions are louder than words and so what if Trump used those words? Biden is taking us closer to WWIII than Trump ever even dreamed about. Those actions are far worse than anything Trump ever said. Remember when people used to laugh at the offended religious right? Remember when the left hated and protested war?Remember when the left was for the common man. Those were the days, huh?
I hate both Bush invading Iraq and Putin invading Ukraine. That seems consistent to me.
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Post by merh on May 12, 2023 21:35:37 GMT
You mean he won the electoral system once? 2016 Turnout 60.1% Donald Trump Electoral vote 304 States carried 30 + ME-02 Popular vote 62,984,828Percentage 46.1% Hillary Clinton Electoral vote 227 States carried 20 + DC Popular vote 65,853,514Percentage 48.2% 2020 Turnout 66.6% Joe Biden Electoral vote 306 States carried 25 + DC + NE-02 Popular vote 81,283,501Percentage 51.3% Donald Trump Electoral vote 232 States carried 25 + ME-02 Popular vote 74,223,975Percentage 46.8% DONALD TRUMP LOST THE POPULAR VOTE IN BOTH ELECTIONS. Sorry. He isn't Popular with "the people" He has a percentage that love him. He has a group that votes against the other side. Sorry, california doesn't decide elections.. You said over on V2 you were a child during the Reagan years. Your presidents rating Reagan was a California governor so you must like something about us But those totals aren't for California, dude. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_electionOr you can see the 2016 results here ballotpedia.org/Donald_Trump
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Post by mrellaguru on May 12, 2023 21:43:16 GMT
The gallows symbolized the mob's feelings and intentions towards Pence. It's rightfully considered a threat even if they weren't going to literally hang him with it.
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Post by shimrod on May 12, 2023 22:14:17 GMT
You mean it's normal for a President or presidential candidate to claim massive fraud when they lose an election? I don't recall that happening very often. Hilldog and the DummyNutsCrackpots did it by making up Russian Collusion which was a witch hunt and a lie. They accused the election officials of fraud? Certain I saw photos of Obama with Trump at the WH a couple of days after the election. Wonder when Biden will get his invite. Trump made similar claims about the 2016 election as well, which is why his actions in 2020 were so predictable.
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Post by Just Casey on May 12, 2023 22:27:33 GMT
Because, my TV told me he is Evil. And, Did I mention he is Orange.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2023 22:53:49 GMT
Remember when people used to laugh at the offended religious right? Remember when the left hated and protested war?Remember when the left was for the common man. Those were the days, huh?
I hate both Bush invading Iraq and Putin invading Ukraine. That seems consistent to me.
Same here. Odd, putin wasn't invading the Ukraine when Trump was president. China wasn't fucking with Taiwan. I know, poor Biden is guilty of circumstance.....
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2023 22:55:40 GMT
This is typical.... Hate the player, not the game Did Hillary and Trump both grasp the rules that were presented? If you can show me Hillary got confused by the rules, I'd be glad to see it. As far as I know, she knew she needed 270 electoral votes. If she didn't know that, she's more incompetent than I thought... Also, I wasn't born during Reagan. Nor was I around.
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Post by Carl LaFong on May 12, 2023 22:57:19 GMT
He’s stupid, ugly and amoral.
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Post by averagejoe2021 on May 12, 2023 22:58:54 GMT
I hate both Bush invading Iraq and Putin invading Ukraine. That seems consistent to me.
Same here. Odd, putin wasn't invading the Ukraine when Trump was president. China wasn't fucking with Taiwan. I know, poor Biden is guilty of circumstance.....
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Post by merh on May 12, 2023 23:01:22 GMT
This is typical.... Hate the player, not the game Did Hillary and Trump both grasp the rules that were presented? If you can show me Hillary got confused by the rules, I'd be glad to see it. As far as I know, she knew she needed 270 electoral votes. If she didn't know that, she's more incompetent than I thought... Yes. Trump won because of the electoral system where it is 50 different contests. But on the whole? Donald lost the popular vote both times. So no, he isn't the most popular with people. He has a core harcore base spread across enough states he won in 2016, but he still was NOT the most popular candidate. That was Hillary by around 3 million votes. And in 2020 he lost the popular vote by 7 million votes & lost the electoral college.
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Post by merh on May 12, 2023 23:03:01 GMT
I hate both Bush invading Iraq and Putin invading Ukraine. That seems consistent to me.
Same here. Odd, putin wasn't invading the Ukraine when Trump was president. China wasn't fucking with Taiwan. I know, poor Biden is guilty of circumstance..... Putin thought Donnie would win & so he could invade in Donnie's second term when Donnie wouldn't do squat & Putin would roll over Ukraine.
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Post by averagejoe2021 on May 12, 2023 23:09:51 GMT
Same here. Odd, putin wasn't invading the Ukraine when Trump was president. China wasn't fucking with Taiwan. I know, poor Biden is guilty of circumstance..... Putin thought Donnie would win & so he could invade in Donnie's second term when Donnie wouldn't do squat & Putin would roll over Ukraine. How do you know that?
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