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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 26, 2023 8:37:25 GMT
Male sexuality as we know it, be it homo or hetero, operates on a different to sphere to that of the female. That is just biology and natures gender attributes. Men want different things than what women would want from sex.
Breeding is taken for granted. It is not a right, but a given for those that are willing to take upon the ideal responsibility of bringing up children and what they have to offer. Most breeders offer jack squat and are more concerned with image in the eyes of others and self.
You ain't just whistlin' Dixie
and truer words have never been spoke or written
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 26, 2023 8:37:53 GMT
Giving birth is egotistical within itself. There does come a point where the woman gets tired of carrying the baby about all the time.
See my earlier thread about seating
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Post by papamihel on Jun 26, 2023 8:38:55 GMT
Only, I think, when you try to find reasons for it beyond biology. Following your natural instincts is the very opposite of being egoistical because they exist for the good of the species. Not for you. What is the natural instinct of gay person? It's certainly not to breed with females.
Sooo... One of our most fundamental instincts can be overridden if your sexual attraction range spills into the same sex? From the evolutionary perspective how it can be different? If you don't procreate your species become extinct within a generation.
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 26, 2023 8:39:10 GMT
I don't think counting the recent dip in birth rates by legal Americans or the Japanese means that the human population is headed towards 1/4 of it's current figures.
I suppose we shall see
well, probably not all of us......... Covid, y'know :P
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Post by papamihel on Jun 26, 2023 8:39:26 GMT
Of course the programming is not the same. There are variations of behavioral patterns which allow an individual to survive, thrive and pass on their genes. Also there is a not a single case of "gayness". Especially now. You’re full of shit. Strike 1
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Jun 26, 2023 8:39:32 GMT
Male sexuality as we know it, be it homo or hetero, operates on a different to sphere to that of the female. That is just biology and natures gender attributes. Men want different things than what women would want from sex.
Breeding is taken for granted. It is not a right, but a given for those that are willing to take upon the ideal responsibility of bringing up children and what they have to offer. Most breeders offer jack squat and are more concerned with image in the eyes of others and self.
You ain't just whistlin' Dixie
and truer words have never been spoke or written
The biggest issue surrounding sex, is the notion of love behind it. While one could say sex can be a facet of love if one really does love the person they are pounding away upon, but the base nature of it is one of lust and to satiate the lust for another's flesh. It is not transcendent.
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 26, 2023 8:39:51 GMT
What is the natural instinct of gay person? It's certainly not to breed with females.
Sooo... One of our most fundamental instincts can be overridden if your sexual attraction range spills into the same sex? From the evolutionary perspective how it can be different? If you don't procreate your species become extinct within a generation.
I've said the same thing about most poverty.
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Jun 26, 2023 8:41:47 GMT
What is the natural instinct of gay person? It's certainly not to breed with females.
Sooo... One of our most fundamental instincts can be overridden if your sexual attraction range spills into the same sex? From the evolutionary perspective how it can be different? If you don't procreate your species become extinct within a generation. It is overridden for gay people, because they don't care for what the straight git wants.
I don't think you read my first post to you properly. You seem desperate to preserve something that really isn't working in humanities best interests. Life will always find a way to evolve, it doesn't need straight sex to force its egoism and ignorance onto the rest of the world.
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Jun 26, 2023 8:42:37 GMT
Sooo... One of our most fundamental instincts can be overridden if your sexual attraction range spills into the same sex? From the evolutionary perspective how it can be different? If you don't procreate your species become extinct within a generation.
I've said the same thing about most poverty.
And we know why poverty is created. 3 cheers for the breeder...
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 26, 2023 8:49:28 GMT
I've said the same thing about most poverty.
And we know why poverty is created. 3 cheers for the breeder...
All the easier to convince them of the merits of collectivism
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Post by papamihel on Jun 26, 2023 8:50:36 GMT
Sooo... One of our most fundamental instincts can be overridden if your sexual attraction range spills into the same sex? From the evolutionary perspective how it can be different? If you don't procreate your species become extinct within a generation.
I don't think you read my first post to you properly. You seem desperate to preserve something that really isn't working in humanities best interests. Life will always find a way to evolve, it doesn't need straight sex to force its egoism and ignorance onto the rest of the world.
You are going to have to unpack this. You can't know this. What it can lead to is psychological struggle. It might be one of the reasons gays and lesbians are more likely to seek help from mental health professionals.
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Jun 26, 2023 8:51:12 GMT
And we know why poverty is created. 3 cheers for the breeder...
All the easier to convince them of the merits of collectivism
And the downside of suffering.
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Post by phludowin on Jun 26, 2023 8:51:22 GMT
I don't see it as a stable foundation for a society\collective. Then we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Jun 26, 2023 8:52:48 GMT
I don't think you read my first post to you properly. You seem desperate to preserve something that really isn't working in humanities best interests. Life will always find a way to evolve, it doesn't need straight sex to force its egoism and ignorance onto the rest of the world.
You are going to have to unpack this. You can't know this. What it can lead to is psychological struggle. It might be one of the reasons gays and lesbians are more likely to seek help from mental health professionals. If there are troubled gay people in the world, who the frick do you think is responsible for it?
You sound like you have a lot to unpack, due to your burden of a fixed mindset of what humanity is and represents. You still need to convince me that it needs to be preserved.
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Post by papamihel on Jun 26, 2023 8:58:24 GMT
You are going to have to unpack this. You can't know this. What it can lead to is psychological struggle. It might be one of the reasons gays and lesbians are more likely to seek help from mental health professionals. If there are troubled gay people in the world, who the frick do you think is responsible for it?
You sound like you have a lot to unpack, due to your burden of a fixed mindset of what humanity is and represents. You still need to convince me that it needs to be preserved.
If you think humanity should not exist, I'm not sure we have anything to discuss. My pessimism never goes that far.
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