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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2023 17:12:11 GMT
So far this thread’s been going on about whether or not gay people can be parents and not about whether or not gay people care about the future. So, are gay people basically sociopaths?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2023 17:14:10 GMT
Let’s say you are a gay person in their 20s. There is a good chance you are going to live another 60 years. You should have an interest in a socially stable future since you will probably live in that future. Probably not. Gay people have high rates of death from AIDS, drugs, disease, et cetera. |
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Post by Fetzer Zinfandel ♀︎ on Jun 25, 2023 17:14:41 GMT
I read perfectly fine. Your premise is that gay people have no drive to procreate, which is false. Again, you are starting with a false premise. No one in the world ever got pregnant from gay sex. His statement is correct. Gay people tend to rarely have children compare to straight people.
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Post by Fetzer Zinfandel ♀︎ on Jun 25, 2023 17:15:16 GMT
Straight married woman here. No kids. How do the child free factor in?
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Post by Fetzer Zinfandel ♀︎ on Jun 25, 2023 17:16:46 GMT
When Pete and Chasten Buttigieg come along with all the same "drives" and maga mocks them openly.
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Post by Lux on Jun 25, 2023 17:17:22 GMT
The thread is a stability a human in his or her formative years growing up isn't going to have a nuanced view of having three parents, Einstein. No, the thread is a discussion. The thread is not a “stability”. “Nuanced view of having 3 parents” - doesn’t even make sense. If you are counting the surrogate as a “3rd parent”, then that would be true for both hetero and gay couples. This thread is a discussion about stability of same sex thus surrogacy was brought up in regards to homosexuality you twat. A teenager will struggle to come to terms with being from what is basically a three parent family until they grow out of it. Never excluded hetero but this thread is homosexuality related you want to start a hetero surrogacy thread engage your brain and start one. |
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Post by Prince Myshkin on Jun 25, 2023 17:23:35 GMT
Yes, but there will be a mother.
I'm a mama's boy. It cruel for two gay men to purposely deprive a child of a mother. Kids need role models of both sexes.
Why the hell do gay men want kids anyway? Seriously, if we were meant to have babies, we'd grow them up our butts.
This stuff is nonsense. Let heterosexuals do what they do and stay the fuck out of it.
You will have to learn that you don’t speak for all gay men. The gay men that want children want them for the same reason heterosexuals or gay women want them. Most of them adopt - and children that are up for adoption are already deprived of two parents through various circumstances. Giving them 2 mother, 2 fathers, or even a single parent of either sex is better than the foster care system. The main thing children need are nurturing and caring parents. Role models of both sexes can be available through extended family, aunts, uncles, grandparents. I know a gay male couple who have adopted two older handicapped children. Those are men who really care. They don't want a doll or a prop.
And there are plenty of older and handicapped children who need adoptive parents.
But a newborn or an infant? There are plenty of heterosexual couples looking to adopt them.
It's just wrong for gay men to cut in line and swoop up those kinds.
Really, a child needs a mother.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2023 17:24:27 GMT
When Pete and Chasten Buttigieg come along with all the same "drives" and maga mocks them openly. PeteButtigieg was mocked for taking paternity leave even though he isn't the father and we were in the middle of the biggest transportation crisis in over half a century with the supply chain backed up. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2023 17:25:09 GMT
No one in the world ever got pregnant from gay sex. His statement is correct. Gay people tend to rarely have children compare to straight people.
Because of people like you. No, it's because gay sex can't make anyone pregnant. |
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Post by averagejoe2021 on Jun 25, 2023 17:27:56 GMT
You will have to learn that you don’t speak for all gay men. The gay men that want children want them for the same reason heterosexuals or gay women want them. Most of them adopt - and children that are up for adoption are already deprived of two parents through various circumstances. Giving them 2 mother, 2 fathers, or even a single parent of either sex is better than the foster care system. The main thing children need are nurturing and caring parents. Role models of both sexes can be available through extended family, aunts, uncles, grandparents. I know a gay male couple who have adopted two older handicapped children. Those are men who really care. They don't want a doll or a prop.
And there are plenty of older and handicapped children who need adoptive parents.
But a newborn or an infant? There are plenty of heterosexual couples looking to adopt them.
It's just wrong for gay men to cut in line and swoop up those kinds.
Really, a child needs a mother.
Sounds like a co-worker of mine. They also adopted two older children who were special needs to ensure they would be given a loving home and not the system. It was a very deliberate choice they made as they wanted to be able to give them a good home and knew their chances were slim otherwise to find one and especially...together as they are siblings. They are currently now in Europe while I help cover her accounts at work, but I am pleased that it worked out so well. So it seems your view of the situation is widely held and respected. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2023 17:29:08 GMT
So far this thread’s been going on about whether or not gay people can be parents and not about whether or not gay people care about the future. So, are gay people basically sociopaths? They have a much, much higher rate of sociopathy, yes. www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886921004177That's why so many die from AIDS, suicide, or drugs. They can't help themselves. Also, look at the rate of domestic abuse in lesbian couples. It's not a healthy lifestyle. |
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Post by jeffersoncody on Jun 25, 2023 17:29:43 GMT
Because of people like you. No, it's because gat sex can't make anyone pregnant. What is "gat sex"? |
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Post by Deplorable Fascist Garbage on Jun 25, 2023 17:30:21 GMT
"Gay people have no children and consequently no interest in creating a socially stable future." Something I read. I don't mean to offend and I hope we can discuss this as adults. Most of our behavior is regulated by our biological "programming". I like to think that intellect can always overcome it but I am probably wrong. So here is the question: is our true interest in socially stable future tied to our biological drive to procreate and create conditions for our issue to thrive? And if so, what about those unable or unwilling to have children? Gay people can and do have children, either through surrogacy or adoption. When you start the conversation with a false premise, then there is nowhere to go. they don't produce children, they can purchase children such as what Mayor Pete Buttigieg did, which of course does not lead to a socially stable future for these children |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2023 17:38:12 GMT
No one in the world ever got pregnant from gay sex. His statement is correct. Gay people tend to rarely have children compare to straight people. *compared That wasn’t the statement he made. His statement was that “gay people have no children and consequently no interest…” which is patently false. They can and do have children through adoption or surrogacy. It's not false. Those cases are exceedingly rare. Even with adoption rates, hetero are far likelier to have kids. Yes there's exceptions to it, but that's not relevant to the topic he's bringing up. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2023 17:42:31 GMT
Straight married woman here. No kids. How do the child free factor in? Yes, and what about straight parents who formed families through adoption? |
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