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Post by abbey1227 on Aug 29, 2023 1:58:30 GMT
here's just the latest..........
Auto Union Boss Wants 46% Raise, 32-Hour Work Week in ‘War’ Against Detroit Carmakers
Shawn Fain also wants better deal for EV battery plant workers The days of settling for lesser contracts ‘are over,’ he says
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Post by abbey1227 on Aug 29, 2023 1:59:35 GMT
Help us out with the math here, some of you geniuses........ 46% increase in pay combined with a 20% cut in work?
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Post by MyFriendDontBeAPaedo on Aug 29, 2023 1:59:43 GMT
This is why people hate unions.
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Post by abbey1227 on Aug 29, 2023 2:01:08 GMT
This is why people hate unions.
Equality used to always surprise me with that same attitude.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2023 2:04:31 GMT
They are about to be replaced by robots, AI, and foreign labor. Might as well ask for the Moon and accept a small pile of shit. The American working man is about to be replaced my machines, asking for less doesn't change that fact. So it goes.
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Post by Shave Dat Beaver! on Aug 29, 2023 3:45:50 GMT
They are about to be replaced by robots, AI, and foreign labor. Might as well ask for the Moon and accept a small pile of shit. The American working man is about to be replaced my machines, asking for less doesn't change that fact. So it goes. So are your harvesters on autopilot and roaming the fields on their own yet? I've already seen combine drivers program the coordinates of their fields into a GPS and basically sit there and enjoy the (boring) ride.
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Post by merh on Aug 29, 2023 4:26:39 GMT
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Post by merh on Aug 29, 2023 4:42:19 GMT
Help us out with the math here, some of you geniuses........ 46% increase in pay combined with a 20% cut in work? /2023/08/25/business/uaw-strike-vote-gm-ford-stellantis/index.htmlSo how many years is the contract? 3 yrs? 5 yrs? 46% over 5 yrs isn't quite so extreme,is it? Does it include those cost of living bumps they are asking for to fight inflation? Does it include raising the starting wage for new workers to be more similar to the older workers? So many issues toed together to make it seem worse than it might be.
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Post by abbey1227 on Aug 29, 2023 4:50:19 GMT
So how many years is the contract? 3 yrs? 5 yrs? 46% over 5 yrs isn't quite so extreme,is it?Does it include those cost of living bumps they are asking for to fight inflation? Does it include raising the starting wage for new workers to be more similar to the older workers? So many issues toed together to make it seem worse than it might be.
We can all tell who here has worked Union or Govt
And what an interesting relationship Union has with Govt. They vote for more Govt, then demand pay raises because of the Inflation caused by Govt?
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Post by merh on Aug 29, 2023 7:21:12 GMT
So how many years is the contract? 3 yrs? 5 yrs? 46% over 5 yrs isn't quite so extreme,is it?Does it include those cost of living bumps they are asking for to fight inflation? Does it include raising the starting wage for new workers to be more similar to the older workers? So many issues tied together to make it seem worse than it might be.
We can all tell who here has worked Union or Govt
And what an interesting relationship Union has with Govt. They vote for more Govt, then demand pay raises because of the Inflation caused by Govt?
Dude, you would be surprised how many government workers I worked with who were republican. Over half.
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Post by abbey1227 on Aug 29, 2023 7:23:18 GMT
We can all tell who here has worked Union or Govt
And what an interesting relationship Union has with Govt. They vote for more Govt, then demand pay raises because of the Inflation caused by Govt?
Dude, you would be surprised how many government workers I worked with who were republican. Over half.
because republicans are immune to hypocrisy?
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Post by furor teutonicus on Aug 29, 2023 7:27:34 GMT
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Post by abbey1227 on Aug 29, 2023 7:55:36 GMT
No idea why this should be an issue, unless the argument is: Executives need to exponentially earn more money, workers do not.
Have you looked at the prices of new vehicles lately?
Do you think those pay bumps might affect those prices?
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Post by Winter_King on Aug 29, 2023 8:01:44 GMT
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Post by furor teutonicus on Aug 29, 2023 8:42:59 GMT
No idea why this should be an issue, unless the argument is: Executives need to exponentially earn more money, workers do not.
Have you looked at the prices of new vehicles lately?
Do you think those pay bumps might affect those prices?
Oh the old wage-price-spiral mar.
Conceptually this isn't wrong, but rising wages and also inflation are calculated in the current, yesterdays, last years and also last decades prices already - in fact this is being done since the 70s (Oil crisis). Thus an actual increase wouldn't do any harm, but that hardly ever happens anyway, and if it happens it is so minimal that it wouldn't even create a wage-price-spiral, even if it wasn't already calculated in the prices.
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