Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2023 14:30:11 GMT
None of these sports are done with weighted feet like skating is. Horrible argument. Have you ever played any sports not on a Playstation? Apparently not. There is no reason whatsoever to put skates at your shoulder level while playing hockey. Not one. You would only do it if you were trying to hurt someone which is so obviously the case here. He deliberately lifts it up and kicks the guy. Had this not involved a black man, you’d never have heard of it or give a shit if you had. It’s only murder because the hated, dangerous race did it. WTF are you talking about? It's murder not because he's black but because he intentionally tried to hurt the guy. And it would be in the news regardless due to the rare occurrence of someone dying in the middle of a game as a direct result of an a purposeful assault. You're the 'tard trying to inject race into it.
|
|
|
Post by PaulsLaugh on Oct 31, 2023 14:31:22 GMT
Had this not involved a black man, you’d never have heard of it or give a shit if you had. It’s only murder because the hated, dangerous race did it. WTF are you talking about? It's murder not because he's black but because he intentionally tried to hurt the guy. And it would be in the news regardless due to the rare occurrence of someone dying in the middle of a game as a direct result of an a premeditated assault. You're the libtard trying to inject race into it. You are nothing but an old fashioned racist…right out of 1963 Alabama. Post more fake, bloody pictures of Petgrave murdering Johnson.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2023 14:39:08 GMT
WTF are you talking about? It's murder not because he's black but because he intentionally tried to hurt the guy. And it would be in the news regardless due to the rare occurrence of someone dying in the middle of a game as a direct result of an a premeditated assault. You're the libtard trying to inject race into it. You are nothing but an old fashioned racist…right out of 1963 Alabama. Post more fake, bloody pictures of Petgrave murdering Johnson. Point specifically to what I said that was racist.
|
|
|
Post by PaulsLaugh on Oct 31, 2023 14:58:01 GMT
You are nothing but an old fashioned racist…right out of 1963 Alabama. Post more fake, bloody pictures of Petgrave murdering Johnson. Point specifically to what I said that was racist. It oozes from you.
|
|
|
Post by ofunknownorigins on Oct 31, 2023 15:00:15 GMT
I saw it and it’s disturbing. That poor man. What a freak accident.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2023 15:00:34 GMT
Point specifically to what I said that was racist. It oozes from you. So you've got nothing. Meanwhile, it is racist of you to think he deserves special treatment because of his race or considers that a factor in the controversy.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2023 15:00:54 GMT
I saw it and it’s disturbing. That poor man. What a freak accident. It's not accident. He deliberately kicked him.
|
|
|
Post by PaulsLaugh on Oct 31, 2023 15:01:57 GMT
So you've got nothing. Meanwhile, it is racist of you to think he deserves special treatment because of his race or considers that a factor in the controversy. You are maga right winger therefore you are a racist.
|
|
|
Post by kuatorises on Oct 31, 2023 16:37:31 GMT
What. The. Fuck. Is. Wrong. With you? Just disgusted at the American bad habit of racism you deny exists. What the fuck are you talking about you freak?
Guy dies in a British hockey game and you're screaming from the mountain tops about AmERiCaN RaCiSm! You are an absolute headcase.
|
|
|
Post by kuatorises on Oct 31, 2023 16:43:20 GMT
It's illegal, therefor murder. Great argument.
People certainly never raise their legs when trying to regain their balance...
Derek Chauvin is an victim of the judicial system and this guy is an assassin with skates. You don't know what murder means, you absolute retard of a man.
None of these sports are done with weighted feet like skating is. Horrible argument. Have you ever played any sports not on a Playstation? Apparently not. There is no reason whatsoever to put skates at your shoulder level while playing hockey. Not one. You would only do it if you were trying to hurt someone which is so obviously the case here. He deliberately lifts it up and kicks the guy. Shut. The. Fuck. Up.
|
|
|
Post by Jep Gambardella on Oct 31, 2023 16:48:48 GMT
Just disgusted at the American bad habit of racism you deny exists. What the fuck are you talking about you freak?
Guy dies in a British hockey game and you're screaming from the mountain tops about AmERiCaN RaCiSm! You are an absolute headcase.
I don't think anyone is claiming that race had anything to do with the incident itself - but race is obviously the main reason why Swimm started a (now deleted) thread on the subject that preceded this one, and why Paul is so vigorously arguing that it was completely unintentional, just a freak accident that happened in the course of a totally normal play, and anyone who disagrees is racist.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2023 18:22:37 GMT
None of these sports are done with weighted feet like skating is. Horrible argument. Have you ever played any sports not on a Playstation? Apparently not. There is no reason whatsoever to put skates at your shoulder level while playing hockey. Not one. You would only do it if you were trying to hurt someone which is so obviously the case here. He deliberately lifts it up and kicks the guy. Shut. The. Fuck. Up.
In all of your instances except one it was the victim of the check with the leg up. None of them were intentional dropkicks like in the OP.
|
|
|
Post by primethefirst on Oct 31, 2023 18:38:50 GMT
He had a history of violent incidents and he used his skates as a weapon--balancing himself on another player in order to raise his leg while keeping his eyes fixed on the target--thus it was no accident. Unless he is retarded, he knows his skates are sharp and can cut, especially when he is putting his leg power into it. I assume his career is over, right? I imagine he is going to get booed and other players would be reluctant to go near the asshole.
I am sure a woke corporation will hire him for Gilette ads though.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2023 21:49:02 GMT
It's illegal, therefor murder. Great argument.
People certainly never raise their legs when trying to regain their balance...
Derek Chauvin is an victim of the judicial system and this guy is an assassin with skates. You don't know what murder means, you absolute retard of a man.
None of these sports are done with weighted feet like skating is. Horrible argument. Have you ever played any sports not on a Playstation? Apparently not. There is no reason whatsoever to put skates at your shoulder level while playing hockey. Not one. You would only do it if you were trying to hurt someone which is so obviously the case here. He deliberately lifts it up and kicks the guy. That's a well put together picture but inaccurate as regards to their body positions during the incident. Perhaps the artist should have drawn a kitten or a bunch of flowers instead.
|
|
|
Post by primethefirst on Oct 31, 2023 23:02:10 GMT
Matt Petgrave intentionally lifted his skate up to kick him. Anyone who has actually skated and played hockey knows this. He should absolutely be prosecuted.
I’ve played hockey from 5 to 45, now I’ll just do an adult pickup hockey session every know and then. I’ve seen players get cut and I’ve got cut on my wrist from a hockey blade. When I played midget A a teammate got into a fight and somehow got nicked really good in the temple, but in every case, the players were close to the ice surface from a fall or an odd melee between players. You never ever raise your skate blade up high like that, there is no reason to do that and every player knows it’s dangerous. Matt Petgrave intentionally raised his leg up and maybe he just wanted to close line him with his leg and take a penalty. Whatever the case, he wanted to hurt him badly, and he ended up killing him.
@phillipschmidtke2001 22 hours ago @monalisa_1346 I thought the same thing too at first, I’ve played for years and weird things can happen if you get your skates tripped up. But the defenders momentum is all wrong for that, I can’t figure out a way for it to happen that wasn’t intentional.
I thought at first that as the defender started moving left for the check, maybe his skates hit the skate of the player in front of him, but that would result in his upper body moving left, not his left leg going up, and his right leg staying down.
If it was an honest accident after he lost balance and was just defending himself and bracing for collision, he probably would have just raised his left knee up in a more defensive way.
Best case I can think of is he stuck his leg out to try to slow down the forward, and accidentally got it too high. But even that is a huuuuge stretch.
His reaction after the play, putting his hands to his face, speaks volumes. I interpret it as him knowing immediately he made a huge mistake in the heat of the moment and regretting it.
@phillipschmidtke2001
21 hours ago @baleygrr the more I watch it I’m starting to agree with your analysis, it almost looks like his leg is horizontal and actually curls back (like a hamstring curl) and that causes the skate to go neck high.
So initially it does look a lot like a one legged drop kick, but when freezing frames it seems like a freak accident where maybe he stuck his leg out horizontally on purpose, but the collision makes his leg curl and the skate go up.
It is almost impossible to tell for sure with the grainy video, and only the defender knows his true intentions. Also, the momentum doesn’t seem right to me that his left leg would go up and his right leg stay in the ice from being bumped by the player in front, or catching his skate. The left leg going up just seems intentional, but perhaps not an intentional kick to injure with the blade.
@drucifer83314
14 hours ago (edited) @phillipschmidtke2001 Non sense. That clown had nothing meaningful to do with the play, he's by far the most penalized player in the league, and has been ejected from at least 2 of the last 6 games if memory serves me. This is how this dude wants to make his mark on the game. Maliciousness. And, yeah, he's made his mark. Maliciously.
@shadowfindermusic
10 hours ago I 100% agree. For sure he did not have the intention to KILL him but he was aiming to do damage. I believe he WILL get prosecuted.
@darkangel9992003
1 day ago That is not only unusual but highly intentional and as I am sure he didn't mean to murder another man, I think a lifetime ban from the sport for the player involved isn't out of pocket at all. I have played and watched hockey my whole life and this is essentially a martial arts kick to stop Adam from advancing the puck! It is sad and I can only hope that the other player receives a lifetime ban as I am sure he will not and probably cannot receive a manslaughter charge as he deserves due to being on the ice in a professional sports environment. RIP Adam Johnson.
|
|