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Post by Flying Monkeys on Oct 30, 2023 19:13:29 GMT
Maybe I misunderstood. I thought you meant "if you say so" to me saying I don't give two shits about race. I genuinely don't. Apols if I got that wrong. I didn’t understand your use of deliberate. You came with the bold type. That’s what I was meaning. But I’m upset and my dyslexia is kicking in. So I am not making sense. I didn't use bold type.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2023 19:15:18 GMT
First I wondered why this thread was on the US Politics board, then I wondered why it had got so many responses so quickly. All has been revealed. Sigh. Yep. This blew up as racial event in the UK. I had not even heard of it until Whose It posted it. Shit, I’m getting out of it, before Heretic charges me with murder. The reporting I’ve seen here in the UK hasn’t dwelt at all upon the racial aspect. I don’t know who posted the original tweet but the same take on the incident appears to be on Stormfront.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Oct 30, 2023 19:20:50 GMT
I didn’t understand your use of deliberate. You came with the bold type. That’s what I was meaning. But I’m upset and my dyslexia is kicking in. So I am not making sense. I didn't use bold type. I’m confused, that was Heretic.
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Post by bartlesby on Oct 30, 2023 19:22:08 GMT
Richard Zednik. That was an actual "donkey kick" too. His teammate's foot swung up backwards after he lost balance and hit Zednick in the neck, slitting it open. Believe it or not, you don't have traction on ice. If you lose your poise or get tripped up, your legs can swing upwards out from under you. Of course, that's not why this claim is gaining internet traction, is it now? It's because the guy who collided with him is black.Bullshit. Any incident like that will always be discussed, especially if someone dies as a result. When McSorley hit Brashear intentionally with his stick, the attacker was white and the victim was black, and the incident was discussed for months, without any racial overtones that I remember. And the case did go to trial.
Bullshit back at you. This place does not operate in a vacuum and even if it did, there was a now-deleted thread about it which made it about race. And no, it wasn't created by a hyperbolic lefty bitching about it; it was dragged in by one of our board's legitimate racists and Nazis, prime. I believe it was titled "White hockey player killed by black guy" or something to that effect and it went on for about 4 pages before getting the axe. Gwyn then attempted to restart the conversation and her thread was deleted. Though to her great credit, while I know she pines nostalgically for the days when V1 was essentially Stormfront, she did not highlight the races involved. I can only guess why it was deleted as well. And here we are on round three with a fresh new thread dedicated to the same topic, this time with a neutral OP. That is in addition to the reactions widespread on social media elsewhere which have made race an element of the story, largely instigated by racists and trolls. And the player in question is now a target of racial hate. That is the understanding and context available when I arrived here. I don't think this needs to be about race at all and I'm not going to harp on too much about that element of the story. But unfortunately, it's been made about race now.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Oct 30, 2023 19:22:27 GMT
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Oct 30, 2023 19:26:07 GMT
I’m confused, that was Heretic. No probs.
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Post by hugsfromlv426 on Oct 30, 2023 19:29:36 GMT
It did look like he kicked out when his legs were in the air. Did he kick out intentionally? If so, how did he see Johnson behind him? And if murder was intention, how did he know to place his blade in the sweet spot between all that body protection? Petgrave is wearing a helmet which limits his peripheral vision. Also they cannot turn their necks as much. This rush to condemn the only black man in Brit pro hockey, that I know of, as cold blooded killer of an innocent hockey player is quite telling. This is why I called the other thread a lynching…or perhaps a high tech-lynching. I already wrote that I didn't think murder was his intention. Argue against what I wrote. And no one was lynched, so cut back on the histrionics.
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Post by hugsfromlv426 on Oct 30, 2023 19:30:25 GMT
I have never seen it in all my years. Full disclosure: I have never watched more than a few minutes of Ice Soccer in my life. Why the puck not? Because it's pucking boring.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2023 19:34:46 GMT
Trolls can be from anywhere.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Oct 30, 2023 19:35:31 GMT
Did he kick out intentionally? If so, how did he see Johnson behind him? And if murder was intention, how did he know to place his blade in the sweet spot between all that body protection? Petgrave is wearing a helmet which limits his peripheral vision. Also they cannot turn their necks as much. This rush to condemn the only black man in Brit pro hockey, that I know of, as cold blooded killer of an innocent hockey player is quite telling. This is why I called the other thread a lynching…or perhaps a high tech-lynching. I already wrote that I didn't think murder was his intention. Argue against what I wrote. And no one was lynched, so cut back on the histrionics. You didn’t see that original post. Pretty gnarly.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Oct 30, 2023 19:35:56 GMT
Trolls can be from anywhere. Fact is, they’re there.
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Post by hugsfromlv426 on Oct 30, 2023 19:36:31 GMT
It was a terrible accident is all as I don't see why a police investigation is necessary. Maybe because someone died from having their throat cut.
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Post by hugsfromlv426 on Oct 30, 2023 19:44:11 GMT
I already wrote that I didn't think murder was his intention. Argue against what I wrote. And no one was lynched, so cut back on the histrionics. You didn’t see that original post. Pretty gnarly. And no one was lynched.
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Post by Lux on Oct 30, 2023 19:44:49 GMT
It was a terrible accident is all as I don't see why a police investigation is necessary. Maybe because someone died from having their throat cut. While playing a physical sport it's not exactly a case of Hercule Poirot. Yes investigate but no one is going to prison based on the video anyway.
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Post by hugsfromlv426 on Oct 30, 2023 19:48:33 GMT
Maybe because someone died from having their throat cut. While playing a physical sport it's not exactly a case of Hercule Poirot. Yes investigate but no one is going to prison based on the video anyway. I would probably agree. I don't know the details of the British legal system, but there would be no way to prove intent beyond a reasonable doubt. It is pretty coincidental that this was caused by the person who is the dirtiest player in the league (or claimed to be anyway, I haven't seen actual numbers).
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