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Post by Boricanator on Dec 3, 2023 15:54:49 GMT
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Post by 🐾 Molly 🐾 on Dec 3, 2023 15:57:12 GMT
Polls don’t matter…. Polls are wrong. unless they show Trump leading, then they are inflated and 100%accurate)
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Post by thorshairspray on Dec 3, 2023 16:02:07 GMT
DO you have a good economy? How are real wages Vs 2018? The spending power of Americans has fallen for two years, so you can bang on about GDP and job creation all you want, but people have less money in their pockets and thats what they vote on. Wages have been outpacing inflation. Considering the disaster Biden inherited in 2021, what we have now is a miracle. If this trend continues, inflation will be a dead issue on November 2024. It’s pretty much dead now. Besides, when has a President lost with an unemployment under 4%? Wages have finally caught up after two years of real wage decline. This means that the average American has less money after costs now than two years ago. Do you think I give a shit when I vote about the employment level? Or the fact that £1000 buys me what £700 did three years ago?
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Post by averagejoe2021 on Dec 3, 2023 16:03:28 GMT
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Post by thorshairspray on Dec 3, 2023 16:05:50 GMT
DO you have a good economy? How are real wages Vs 2018? The spending power of Americans has fallen for two years, so you can bang on about GDP and job creation all you want, but people have less money in their pockets and thats what they vote on. Wages vs inflation is paltry here in the US compared to 2020. Our poverty rates are way up. Our border is in shambles. Less people here are homeowners. People are borrowing against their investments/property because they can't afford their bills under Biden. LPR is down as is consumer confidence. There's a host of many more reasons but trust me... everyone here knows the economy is bad... its just that not everyone can admit it. UK GDP and employment are higher now than in 2019. I have less money Which of those do you think matters to me? Boricanator is made of cope.
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Post by averagejoe2021 on Dec 3, 2023 16:07:27 GMT
Wages vs inflation is paltry here in the US compared to 2020. Our poverty rates are way up. Our border is in shambles. Less people here are homeowners. People are borrowing against their investments/property because they can't afford their bills under Biden. LPR is down as is consumer confidence. There's a host of many more reasons but trust me... everyone here knows the economy is bad... its just that not everyone can admit it. UK GDP and employment are higher now than in 2019. I have less money Which of those do you think matters to me? Boricanator is made of cope. Hoping your holiday season provides you some improvement. I'd have tons of questions sometime about your thoughts on many UK political scenarios ranging from free speech, immigration, your leaders, to Brexit.
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Post by thorshairspray on Dec 3, 2023 16:10:33 GMT
UK GDP and employment are higher now than in 2019. I have less money Which of those do you think matters to me? Boricanator is made of cope. Hoping your holiday season provides you some improvement. I'd have tons of questions sometime about your thoughts on many UK political scenarios ranging from free speech, immigration, your leaders, to Brexit. I worked a ton of overtime in November, for the Government to help itself to just shy of £1000 of my money. Twats. And ask away, my friend.
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Post by averagejoe2021 on Dec 3, 2023 16:15:02 GMT
Hoping your holiday season provides you some improvement. I'd have tons of questions sometime about your thoughts on many UK political scenarios ranging from free speech, immigration, your leaders, to Brexit. I worked a ton of overtime in November, for the Government to help itself to just shy of £1000 of my money. Twats. And ask away, my friend. Thank you for the consideration! Time your time...no rush as Id really like the perspective of those across the pond. What were your thoughts on Brexit? As I recall from what I've read... it was born largely out of a desire for the UK to have more say on issues ranging from immigration to not having to prop up other EU nations who had gross fiscal overspending. Was that the motivation/sentiment?... and how is it playing out now? I know Germany made more difficult economic moves as a recourse.
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Post by Boricanator on Dec 3, 2023 16:26:10 GMT
Wages have been outpacing inflation. Considering the disaster Biden inherited in 2021, what we have now is a miracle. If this trend continues, inflation will be a dead issue on November 2024. It’s pretty much dead now. Besides, when has a President lost with an unemployment under 4%? Wages have finally caught up after two years of real wage decline. This means that the average American has less money after costs now than two years ago. Do you think I give a shit when I vote about the employment level? Or the fact that £1000 buys me what £700 did three years ago? That’s not happening now. And slowly the gap is closing. Inflation is dying out as an issue.
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Post by thorshairspray on Dec 3, 2023 16:28:55 GMT
Wages have finally caught up after two years of real wage decline. This means that the average American has less money after costs now than two years ago. Do you think I give a shit when I vote about the employment level? Or the fact that £1000 buys me what £700 did three years ago? That’s not happening now. And slowly the gap is closing. Inflation is dying out as an issue. Very, very slowly....How do you not understand this?
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Post by Boricanator on Dec 3, 2023 16:29:07 GMT
Now you just being disingenuous. Obviously the poverty is up after the child tax credit expired. But poverty levels are back at pre-pandemic levels. That much is clear. The rest is just falsehoods or trying to qualify the good news with false bad news.
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Post by Boricanator on Dec 3, 2023 16:30:28 GMT
Wages vs inflation is paltry here in the US compared to 2020. Our poverty rates are way up. Our border is in shambles. Less people here are homeowners. People are borrowing against their investments/property because they can't afford their bills under Biden. LPR is down as is consumer confidence. There's a host of many more reasons but trust me... everyone here knows the economy is bad... its just that not everyone can admit it. UK GDP and employment are higher now than in 2019. I have less money Which of those do you think matters to me? Boricanator is made of cope. Maybe you just have bad spending habits.
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Post by Boricanator on Dec 3, 2023 16:32:43 GMT
That’s not happening now. And slowly the gap is closing. Inflation is dying out as an issue. Very, very slowly....How do you not understand this? Rome wasn’t built in a day. It takes time. Any adult knows this. With things getting better, why should we vote out the person who is improving things and vote in the person that left the country worse than when he started?
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Post by averagejoe2021 on Dec 3, 2023 16:47:27 GMT
Now you just being disingenuous. Obviously the poverty is up after the child tax credit expired. But poverty levels are back at pre-pandemic levels. That much is clear. The rest is just falsehoods or trying to qualify the good news with false bad news. Facts aren't disingenuous. Removing the credit means things going back to equal reporting. So apples to apples...poverty went up significantly under Biden...which makes sense since his policies contributed to the highest inflation in the modern era. And you didn't dispute any of the other facts that even your fellow lefties acknowledge hence why 70% of the people admit the economy went south under the "Biden Prosperity"
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Post by thorshairspray on Dec 3, 2023 16:54:46 GMT
I worked a ton of overtime in November, for the Government to help itself to just shy of £1000 of my money. Twats. And ask away, my friend. Thank you for the consideration! Time your time...no rush as Id really like the perspective of those across the pond. What were your thoughts on Brexit? As I recall from what I've read... it was born largely out of a desire for the UK to have more say on issues ranging from immigration to not having to prop up other EU nations who had gross fiscal overspending. Was that the motivation/sentiment?... and how is it playing out now? I know Germany made more difficult economic moves as a recourse. Whatever any arse like Nobbi may tell you, the desire to leave the EU was based primarily on the desire for sovereignty. Immigration was the second most important issue.The EU was fine as a trading block, but the minute it started making laws, the British stopped liking it. There was always a fundamental problem for Britain in Europe, because the British tradition is that rights are negative, something we exported to our colonies. For Europeans the reverse is true, they tend to think rights are positive. So for the British, to have an unelected Executive that is not directly answerable to the electorate is simply unacceptable. Brexit has not gone well, mainly because the people negotiating it, didn't believe in it. The EU was never going to negotiate fairly, because they needed to punish the UK to warn anyone considering leaving the block. If we can make a success of ourselves outside of the EU, so can anyone else. So instead of us saying "sod off" and leaving, we wimped out and got a shite deal where we are still paying into the EU budget. This wasn't helped by Remain supporting MPS in Parliament working for the EU against our own government. The issues over the Irish border could be solved, but the EU doesn't want to. It will put the integrity of its border over the welfare of the Irish to make a point, while not giving a shit about hundreds of thousands of people pouring into the continent from North Africa. But the EU is a Paper Tiger, it passes laws and nations accept them, but the EU has no means of enforcing anything, its a weird situation where everyone agrees to let the EU take the piss, even though it has no physical power to do anything. And any time anyone says nations are Sovereign in the EU, look at how the EU treats places like Poland an Hungary when they say "no" to taking in the fake refugees that Germany unilaterally decided to invite into Europe. The Tories have subsequently betrayed the country. Nowhere in the UK outside of London wants our current levels of immigration, yet since winning a huge majority in 2019, they have increased immigration to record levels. 1,200,000 people this year and further, the average earnings of those immigrants has fallen. So we are doubly worse off. Because the new comers are even more of a strain on the system than the immigrants from the EU. And the government lacks the spine to do what we need to do to solve the issue. Our slavish adherence to "International Law" and the ECHR means that criminals can take advantage of us and we do nothing to tackle it. Not helped by a left wing civil service, that while nominally politically neutral, will fight the government at every turn if it tries to take action on immigration. The alternative is Labour, who are god awful and won't do anything to address the concerns the majority of the public has. We need an actual right wing party, but anytime anyone tries, they are inevitably called "far right" and "racist" by the media.
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