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Post by papamihel on Dec 13, 2023 5:01:51 GMT
The concept of a “Greater Israel”, according to the founding father of Zionism Theodore Herzl, is a Jewish State stretching “from the Brook of Egypt to the Euphrates.”
You show me evidence that that is what Herzl called for. Otherwise, it is rubbish. Google it. It's allover the internet. papamihel , an Israeli, said first Herzl wanted it in Uganda. Uganda? So much for God giving you Palestine.
You know, you chose your username well. Just as your fictional namesake you have good intentions but are totally disconnected from reality. Who said anything about God? Zionism is about having a Jewish national state in the place where 2 Jewish national states have existed previously. |
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Post by Prince Myshkin on Dec 13, 2023 5:41:32 GMT
Google it. It's allover the internet. papamihel , an Israeli, said first Herzl wanted it in Uganda. Uganda? So much for God giving you Palestine.
You know, you chose your username well. Just as your fictional namesake you have good intentions but are totally disconnected from reality. Who said anything about God? Zionism is about having a Jewish national state in the place where 2 Jewish national states have existed previously. Dude, just as I oppose the oppression of the Palestinians, I support Israel's right to exist. I take a middle road which seeks a solution where both sides can live in the Levant.
You are incapable of looking at the other side. Israel is bombing innocent civilians and killing children.
Yes, Israel makes a religious claim to the land going back to the Torah. You're being dishonest if you deny that.
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Post by SciFive on Dec 13, 2023 5:53:17 GMT
papamihelWho said anything about God?
Zionism is about having a Jewish national state in the place where 2 Jewish national states have existed previously.=========== These states really existed, you’re right. They’re part of world history, not religious history.
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Post by uncreative on Dec 13, 2023 6:17:19 GMT
You know, you chose your username well. Just as your fictional namesake you have good intentions but are totally disconnected from reality. Who said anything about God? Zionism is about having a Jewish national state in the place where 2 Jewish national states have existed previously. Dude, just as I oppose the oppression of the Palestinians, I support Israel's right to exist. I take a middle road which seeks a solution where both sides can live in the Levant.
You are incapable of looking at the other side. Israel is bombing innocent civilians and killing children.
Yes, Israel makes a religious claim to the land going back to the Torah. You're being dishonest if you deny that.
We don't do that here. You're not allowed have conflicted opinions. It has to be completely one sided with 100% certainty that your way is the only correct option. |
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Post by Prince Myshkin on Dec 13, 2023 7:35:27 GMT
Dude, just as I oppose the oppression of the Palestinians, I support Israel's right to exist. I take a middle road which seeks a solution where both sides can live in the Levant.
You are incapable of looking at the other side. Israel is bombing innocent civilians and killing children.
Yes, Israel makes a religious claim to the land going back to the Torah. You're being dishonest if you deny that.
We don't do that here. You're not allowed have conflicted opinions. It has to be completely one sided with 100% certainty that your way is the only correct option. This is what the Israeli "settlers" say. It's their land given by god. Palestinians belong in Jordan. If that's not fascist, I know no other word for it.
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Post by SciFive on Dec 13, 2023 7:47:01 GMT
We don't do that here. You're not allowed have conflicted opinions. It has to be completely one sided with 100% certainty that your way is the only correct option. This is what the Israeli "settlers" say. It's their land given by god. Palestinians belong in Jordan. If that's not fascist, I know no other word for it. The Palestinians say "River to the Sea" meaning that Israel shouldn't exist at all.
This is Fascist.
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Post by damngumby on Dec 13, 2023 10:55:13 GMT
Remember when Israel returned 90% of the land captured during the 6 day war?
The OP doesn’t.
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Post by jeffersoncody on Dec 13, 2023 11:53:14 GMT
Beautiful! Israelis Worshiping Jesus in Hebrew in Jerusalem!
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Post by yggdrasil on Dec 13, 2023 12:48:43 GMT
Yet they are slaughtering thousands of innocent men women and children. Their blood is on your hands. Israel asked them to evacuate all along. The haters want the Gazans dead as a weapon against Israel. Israel has to fight Hamas anyway. My hands? Oh, well, there you go. All this time I thought it was Israel bombing Gaza and it turned out it was silly old me. Durrr, I feel so foolish. |
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Post by SciFive on Dec 13, 2023 12:51:36 GMT
Their blood is on your hands. Israel asked them to evacuate all along. The haters want the Gazans dead as a weapon against Israel. Israel has to fight Hamas anyway. My hands? Oh, well, there you go. All this time I thought it was Israel bombing Gaza... You're part of the world that refused to let the Gazan civilians get out of the way of a very bad war.
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Post by 🐕 🐕 🐕 🐕 🐕 🐈⬛ Molly on Dec 13, 2023 13:03:10 GMT
Their blood is on your hands. Israel asked them to evacuate all along. The haters want the Gazans dead as a weapon against Israel. Israel has to fight Hamas anyway. My hands? Oh, well, there you go. All this time I thought it was Israel bombing Gaza and it turned out it was silly old me. Durrr, I feel so foolish. Isn’t it convenient. The blood is on everyone’s hands except the ones bombing them. |
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Post by SciFive on Dec 13, 2023 13:10:23 GMT
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Post by yggdrasil on Dec 13, 2023 14:38:19 GMT
My hands? Oh, well, there you go. All this time I thought it was Israel bombing Gaza and it turned out it was silly old me. Durrr, I feel so foolish. Isn’t it convenient. The blood is on everyone’s hands except the ones bombing them. It takes a special sort of warped logic to get your head around that one. ![[grin]](http://storage.proboards.com/6870873/images/CBubFSUbXfyoLMZUjeBb.gif) Perhaps it's a new thing since the number denying, first say no one's actually dead, but if they were it must be someone else's fault. |
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Post by SciFive on Dec 13, 2023 15:06:49 GMT
International law puts the responsibility on the ones who use human shields.
Human shields are illegal.
Supporting Hamas by pushing hard for the human shields to stay put is why Hamas gets away with this.
People who did this bear responsibility for inciting Hamas to use these shields.
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Post by 🐕 🐕 🐕 🐕 🐕 🐈⬛ Molly on Dec 13, 2023 15:25:22 GMT
International law puts the responsibility on the ones who use human shields. Human shields are illegal. Supporting Hamas by pushing hard for the human shields to stay put is why Hamas gets away with this. People who did this bear responsibility for inciting Hamas to use these shields. FFS - if there was somewhere for Gazans to go, I would be all for telling them to go there. And then there is REALITY which you seem hell bent on avoiding and that is that they literally have nowhere to go, so telling them to leave is a meaningless gesture on Israel’s part, since you KNOW they have nowhere to go. When Israel told them to go to south Gaza, they were bombed there anyway. |
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