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Post by SciFive on Dec 13, 2023 16:17:23 GMT
On the old IMDB2, I remember Ygg (Zos) saying repeatedly that he chooses sides based on the numbers killed.
This is how Hamas gets useful fucking idiots on their side.
They get their people killed and brag about it.
The numbers still count the most to the useful fucking idiots, though.
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Post by Prince Myshkin on Dec 13, 2023 16:57:23 GMT
Beautiful! Israelis Worshiping Jesus in Hebrew in Jerusalem! Hahaha. They hate Jews for Jesus worse than they hate Palestinians!
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Post by SciFive on Dec 13, 2023 17:40:23 GMT
Beautiful! Israelis Worshiping Jesus in Hebrew in Jerusalem! Hahaha. They hate Jews for Jesus worse than they hate Palestinians! Israelis hate neither of these people.
Israelis just don't want to be killed by Palestinian terrorists or proselytized by people from another religion.
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Post by Prince Myshkin on Dec 13, 2023 19:35:50 GMT
Hahaha. They hate Jews for Jesus worse than they hate Palestinians! Israelis hate neither of these people.
Israelis just don't want to be killed by Palestinian terrorists or proselytized by people from another religion.
So you admit Israel is a religious state?
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Post by 99999 on Dec 13, 2023 19:40:35 GMT
Israelis hate neither of these people.
Israelis just don't want to be killed by Palestinian terrorists or proselytized by people from another religion.
So you admit Israel is a religious state? That is why they abuse Christians. They want the Christians expelled from Israel. Same as a "No Go" Zone for Christians in Brooklyn.
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Post by SciFive on Dec 13, 2023 19:46:34 GMT
Israelis hate neither of these people.
Israelis just don't want to be killed by Palestinian terrorists or proselytized by people from another religion. So you admit Israel is a religious state? Oh God - here we go.
Israel is a secular government but we are the homeland and a safe place for Jews.
We don't want people to come here to remove Jews from the Jewish religion.
We aren't allowed to proselytize to bring others into our religion but we don't forbid people to leave our religion either.
It's purely a personal choice but it can be uncomfortable when people try to ask us to join their religion. I've had it happen to me twice in Israel (and one of the times, it was right outside my apartment building). I was very polite about it and the proselytizers gave up quickly (while being polite, too).
It happened many more times in America (where people came to my door and knocked). :)
I was polite.
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Post by SciFive on Dec 13, 2023 19:47:36 GMT
So you admit Israel is a religious state? That is why they abuse Christians. They want the Christians expelled from Israel. Same as a "No Go" Zone for Christians in Brooklyn. Shut the fuck up.
This isn't true. There are some kids who get rude but they're kids.
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Post by SciFive on Dec 13, 2023 19:58:32 GMT
We have Valentines Day in Israel - it's very sweet with hearts all over the place.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Dec 13, 2023 20:12:40 GMT
We have Valentines Day in Israel - it's very sweet with hearts all over the place.
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Post by 99999 on Dec 13, 2023 21:14:44 GMT
That is why they abuse Christians. They want the Christians expelled from Israel. Same as a "No Go" Zone for Christians in Brooklyn. Shut the fuck up.
This isn't true. There are some kids who get rude but they're kids.
We still have relative free speech here. You CAN NOT stomach the TRUTH! Yeah right! Like an old dude in Brooklyn spat on me. Why? I was daring to wear my cross while peacefully walking in Brooklyn, specifically in Borough Park. Arrogant bastard. Sure, just kids!
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Post by Power Ranger on Dec 13, 2023 21:23:13 GMT
That was conceived before they lost a third of their population in the holocaust (which they have yet to replace) and the Arab population has increased by 1000s of %.
They are in Gaza because they were attacked. They aren’t planning on such regional expansion 🙄
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Post by marsatax on Dec 14, 2023 0:42:10 GMT
I don't see any authoritative sources there. In the Wikipedia article on "Greater Israel", Herzl is not even mentioned, and your map does not appear. I believe that map was created by one of the Arab countries, or perhaps by the Soviets, in order to make it seem like Israel is inherently expansionist. In other words, it is a lie. Herzl wanted Uganda. Why not the Nile? No, I do not believe Israel has any serious goal of conquering a "Greater Israel" as in that map. The point is to show the arbitrary nature of Israel's claim that God gave them that land. Israel's declaration of independence does not even mention the claim that God gave them the land. Instead, it points out that Jewish immigrants to the land built cities and towns, drained swamps, and so forth, and that the Balfour Declaration, the League of Nations mandate resolution, and the UN partition resolution all acknowledged the right of Jews to build a country there.
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Post by marsatax on Dec 14, 2023 0:44:28 GMT
You know, you chose your username well. Just as your fictional namesake you have good intentions but are totally disconnected from reality. Who said anything about God? Zionism is about having a Jewish national state in the place where 2 Jewish national states have existed previously. Dude, just as I oppose the oppression of the Palestinians, I support Israel's right to exist. I take a middle road which seeks a solution where both sides can live in the Levant.
You are incapable of looking at the other side. Israel is bombing innocent civilians and killing children.
Yes, Israel makes a religious claim to the land going back to the Torah. You're being dishonest if you deny that.
Religious Zionists might do that, but I myself am an atheist, and so I do not use God as a justification for the founding of modern Israel.
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Post by marsatax on Dec 14, 2023 0:48:38 GMT
So you admit Israel is a religious state? That is why they abuse Christians. They want the Christians expelled from Israel. Same as a "No Go" Zone for Christians in Brooklyn. Israel recognizes the right to freedom of religion. Ask yourself why the Christian population of Bethlehem (controlled by the Palestinian Authority) has declined, and why there are almost no Christians left in Gaza (controlled by Hamas). And, no, this was true even before the current war.
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Post by Xeliou66 on Dec 14, 2023 0:48:48 GMT
That is why they abuse Christians. They want the Christians expelled from Israel. Same as a "No Go" Zone for Christians in Brooklyn. Shut the fuck up.
This isn't true. There are some kids who get rude but they're kids.
Settler sewage spit in the faces of Christians, and Christians in general are treated with disdain by Israeli Jews. Most Israeli Jews want special rights for only Jews, and I guarantee you are amongst them. It makes me sick how so many evangelicals love Israel while the Israeli Jews despise them and many of them would spit on them if they came near them.
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