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Post by Flying Monkeys on Dec 20, 2023 18:38:40 GMT
With who and what weapon did you use? I'm trying to solve clue! We know the park. I got a feeling I know the weapon. That leaves....who... My girlfriend at the time. And only one weapon was involved....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2023 18:50:44 GMT
With who and what weapon did you use? I'm trying to solve clue! We know the park. I got a feeling I know the weapon. That leaves....who... My girlfriend at the time. And only one weapon was involved.... WATSON, I CRACKED THE CASE!
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Post by merh on Dec 20, 2023 19:52:44 GMT
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Post by yggdrasil on Dec 20, 2023 19:55:57 GMT
It's the complete lack of ability to debate that I think baffles outsiders. (I know that's a generalisation but it's certainly mainly true.) Because you either gotta be far left or far right. Agree with something Trump did, maga. You disagree with something Biden did, maga. You disagree with something Trump did, you're a left wing lunatic. That's where we are. Well, theres plenty of normal non MAGA Republicans and to any non American Biden is a centrist, so there should be plenty of room for debate.
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Post by yggdrasil on Dec 20, 2023 20:01:07 GMT
These things have life long consequences and then some fuckwit comes along and calls you a "murderer". Its not my place to judge what adults do. I don't believe it's murder. I think sometimes people make mistakes. My debate for abortion is simple. I don't believe we are superior to anyone else. Some animals kill and eat their young. So I don't believe humans are superior to anything else. In the end, it's adult stuff. It's between two consenting adults. You obviously need a viable date for a foetus, we have 26 weeks currently but that may eventually change to 24 based on medical advancements, although the huge mass of terminations are done by around 12 seeks here. Other than that you are allowing the Government to take away your bodily autonomy and force you to be a human incubator. Thats the stuff of Dystopian nightmares and has no place in a democracy.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2023 20:02:19 GMT
Because you either gotta be far left or far right. Agree with something Trump did, maga. You disagree with something Biden did, maga. You disagree with something Trump did, you're a left wing lunatic. That's where we are. Well, theres plenty of normal non MAGA Republicans and to any non American Biden is a centrist, so there should be plenty of room for debate. Okay, here's my challenge. See how many debates, in American politics, turn into "fuck me, no fuck you."
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Post by yggdrasil on Dec 20, 2023 20:02:56 GMT
Alart from a few mentally ill people who would believe there were? Trumps as bat shit as a few on here.
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Post by gwyn on Dec 20, 2023 20:11:01 GMT
Its not my place to judge what adults do. I don't believe it's murder. I think sometimes people make mistakes. My debate for abortion is simple. I don't believe we are superior to anyone else. Some animals kill and eat their young. So I don't believe humans are superior to anything else. In the end, it's adult stuff. It's between two consenting adults. You obviously need a viable date for a foetus, we have 26 weeks currently but that may eventually change to 24 based on medical advancements, although the huge mass of terminations are done by around 12 seeks here. Other than that you are allowing the Government to take away your bodily autonomy and force you to be a human incubator. Thats the stuff of Dystopian nightmares and has no place in a democracy.
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Post by merh on Dec 20, 2023 20:17:20 GMT
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Post by merh on Dec 20, 2023 20:20:54 GMT
You obviously need a viable date for a foetus, we have 26 weeks currently but that may eventually change to 24 based on medical advancements, although the huge mass of terminations are done by around 12 seeks here. Other than that you are allowing the Government to take away your bodily autonomy and force you to be a human incubator. Thats the stuff of Dystopian nightmares and has no place in a democracy. Stuff happens. There are few abortions done after 24 weeks & those tend to be for cause. LIke the story of the woman who discovered at 35 weeks her baby had Dandy-Walker malformation. She did the ultrasound early in the pregnancy & was told things were fine. They weren't.
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Post by gwyn on Dec 20, 2023 20:30:38 GMT
Stuff happens. There are few abortions done after 24 weeks & those tend to be for cause. LIke the story of the woman who discovered at 35 weeks her baby had Dandy-Walker malformation. She did the ultrasound early in the pregnancy & was told things were fine. They weren't. Legitimate exceptions need to be protected. The system worked for that woman in Texas until the Texas Attorney General got involved. Unlike in other countries, the woman or girl can travel to another state so the states with bans know they can play politics as hard as they like. That needs to stop. If a state's law allows for qualifying exceptions, they need to honor that.
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Post by 🥥 🌴 Molly 🥥 🌴 on Dec 20, 2023 20:40:39 GMT
Stuff happens. There are few abortions done after 24 weeks & those tend to be for cause. LIke the story of the woman who discovered at 35 weeks her baby had Dandy-Walker malformation. She did the ultrasound early in the pregnancy & was told things were fine. They weren't. Legitimate exceptions need to be protected. The system worked for that woman in Texas until the Texas Attorney General got involved. Unlike in other countries, the woman or girl can travel to another state so the states with bans know they can play politics as hard as they like. That needs to stop. If a state's law allows for qualifying exceptions, they need to honor that. That means that the system DIDN’T work in Texas if the attorney general was allowed to get involved.
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Post by yggdrasil on Dec 21, 2023 12:27:33 GMT
Stuff happens. There are few abortions done after 24 weeks & those tend to be for cause. LIke the story of the woman who discovered at 35 weeks her baby had Dandy-Walker malformation. She did the ultrasound early in the pregnancy & was told things were fine. They weren't. Would I be right in assuming the Sates where there are flat bans are the God and Guns type hard right wing States? Wonder what amount of the population is completely banned now. Makes for a scary map. Am I right in thinking that some places will also prosecute if a woman chooses to go out of State to get an abortion, or is that a myth.?
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Post by 🥥 🌴 Molly 🥥 🌴 on Dec 21, 2023 15:18:03 GMT
Stuff happens. There are few abortions done after 24 weeks & those tend to be for cause. LIke the story of the woman who discovered at 35 weeks her baby had Dandy-Walker malformation. She did the ultrasound early in the pregnancy & was told things were fine. They weren't. Would I be right in assuming the Sates where there are flat bans are the God and Guns type hard right wing States? Wonder what amount of the population is completely banned now. Makes for a scary map. Am I right in thinking that some places will also prosecute if a woman chooses to go out of State to get an abortion, or is that a myth.? Texas has a law that says a woman or anyone helping a woman get an out of state abortion can be sued. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/09/08/questions-texas-abortion-law/So - not prosecuted, but sued. And yes - right wing states and flat bans. Kansas is a unique exception, but they let the actual voters decide instead of some power-trippy conservatives. www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/03/kansas-abortion-vote-state-constitution
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Post by dlancer on Dec 21, 2023 21:41:21 GMT
Well, theres plenty of normal non MAGA Republicans and to any non American Biden is a centrist, so there should be plenty of room for debate. Okay, here's my challenge. See how many debates, in American politics, turn into "fuck me, no fuck you." That can happen with two people debating over their favorite flavor of ice cream.
Nothing about that attitude screams right vs left.
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