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Post by ayatollah on Feb 13, 2024 16:45:53 GMT
Gwyn? I joked about hookers once and I still get called out on it. The reality is that your sex life is probably a lot more fulfilling than most posters'. The question shouldn't be how many partners someone has had, but how many they had that worked. You've got it as most posters on this board don't even have kids. Successful reproductive behavior is all evolution cares about. It doesn't give a flip about males that bang hundreds of women without producing offspring.
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Post by Factchecker3Point0 on Feb 13, 2024 16:46:25 GMT
I didn’t watch the video, but to answer the question, yes. Girls are trained from a young age that their “virginity” is supposed to be a gift to their male partners. Boys aren’t taught that. Girls are made to sign “purity pledges” to to their fathers, which is really sick. Virginity is used to oppress women and girls. I have to admit I never gave it very much thought but you raise some good points here.
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Post by jeffersoncody on Feb 13, 2024 16:47:53 GMT
Still, I'm very glad I have slept with more than one woman in my life. PS. Maybe ayatollah is not counting hookers? I joked about hookers once and I still get called out on it. I was just taking the piss, pulling your leg ayatollah. Gwyn has never said anything to me about you. I believe you were being 100% sincere when you said you have only slept with one woman. I wasn't joking when I said I was 'glad I have slept with more than one woman in my life'. though. Sex is always more special when you love the woman, but its still a lot of fun with a woman you are not in love with.
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Post by ayatollah on Feb 13, 2024 16:49:24 GMT
I joked about hookers once and I still get called out on it. I was just taking the piss, pulling your leg ayatollah. Gwyn has never said anything to me about you. I believe you were being 100% sincere when you said you have only slept with one woman. I wasn't joking when I said I was 'glad I have slept with more than one woman in my life'. though. Sex is always more special when you love the woman, but its still a lot of fun with a woman you are not in love with. Gwyn called me out over my joke once, as usual with Gwyn she was right, but it's still just a joke. Tasteless but still a joke.
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Post by jeffersoncody on Feb 13, 2024 16:53:27 GMT
I was just taking the piss, pulling your leg ayatollah. Gwyn has never said anything to me about you. I believe you were being 100% sincere when you said you have only slept with one woman. I wasn't joking when I said I was 'glad I have slept with more than one woman in my life'. though. Sex is always more special when you love the woman, but its still a lot of fun with a woman you are not in love with. Gwyn called me out over my joke once, as usual with Gwyn she was right, but it's still just a joke. Tasteless but still a joke. What was the joke?
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Post by ayatollah on Feb 13, 2024 16:59:37 GMT
Gwyn called me out over my joke once, as usual with Gwyn she was right, but it's still just a joke. Tasteless but still a joke. What was the joke? Some thread about nightmares, I said expensive hookers with cold hands.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2024 17:07:30 GMT
Interesting concept as long as watching the video isn't required.
It seems to me that the intention behind virginity is to stigmatize sex for any purpose other than reproduction. I think it's a social control. Men feel it too. Women got the worse half of it because women's bodies are blamed for men's distractions. That still goes on. Even when they follow the dress code, female high school students, professionals, and tourists continue to face regular harassment and reprimands for dressing in a way that is deemed distracting. Years of religious influence have created that social response. The "distracting woman" is like a Pavlov's Bell taught over centuries.
I don't think virginity is a myth, but I think the stigmas and myths about it are based in control. I think there's an argument to be made that it is a construct and not necessarily biological. No body part of mine was irreparably altered. Men don't have a hymen, but I think we do have a cherry. Something in me changed; that's how I knew mine was lost. It wasn't through the first time I had sex, or the second or third... it was years into a complicated relationship that it broke.
I think men aren't taught to think in terms of being entered, but regardless of whose body parts are in who, I felt I lost my virginity when I felt entered. It took years chipping away at it for me to feel I'd let somebody in. The sensation of giving myself over more than biologically was my cherry popped. It was more in my brain than anywhere else.
It's funny because we're taught to think of virginity as something to be lost, whereas I felt when I was truly no longer a virgin, it was because I gained something.
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Post by 🐕 🐕 🐕 🐕 🐕 🐈⬛ Molly on Feb 13, 2024 17:09:07 GMT
Gwyn? I joked about hookers once and I still get called out on it. The reality is that your sex life is probably a lot more fulfilling than most posters'. The question shouldn't be how many partners someone has had, but how many they had that worked. You've got it as most posters on this board don't even have kids. Including you.
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Post by ayatollah on Feb 13, 2024 17:17:56 GMT
Interesting concept as long as watching the video isn't required.
It seems to me that the intention behind virginity is to stigmatize sex for any purpose other than reproduction. I think it's a social control. Men feel it too. Women got the worse half of it because women's bodies are blamed for men's distractions. That still goes on. Even when they follow the dress code, female high school students, professionals, and tourists continue to face regular harassment and reprimands for dressing in a way that is deemed distracting. Years of religious influence have created that social response. The "distracting woman" is like a Pavlov's Bell taught over centuries.
I don't think virginity is a myth, but I think the stigmas and myths about it are based in control. I think there's an argument to be made that it is a construct and not necessarily biological. No body part of mine was irreparably altered. Men don't have a hymen, but I think we do have a cherry. Something in me changed; that's how I knew mine was lost. It wasn't through the first time I had sex, or the second or third... it was years into a complicated relationship that it broke.
I think men aren't taught to think in terms of being entered, but regardless of whose body parts are in who, I felt I lost my virginity when I felt entered. It took years chipping away at it for me to feel I'd let somebody in. The sensation of giving myself over more than biologically was my cherry popped. It was more in my brain than anywhere else.
It's funny because we're taught to think of virginity as something to be lost, whereas I felt when I was truly no longer a virgin, it was because I gained something.
Listening to women discuss this and divulge how they feel is really interesting but also tells me just how different we are, at least as far as sex is concerned. To me it seems like women have it easy. You don't have to do anything, you can live as-is and you never have to prove a thing to anyone. Living as-is is actually encouraged! Life on easy mode.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2024 17:36:34 GMT
Interesting concept as long as watching the video isn't required.
It seems to me that the intention behind virginity is to stigmatize sex for any purpose other than reproduction. I think it's a social control. Men feel it too. Women got the worse half of it because women's bodies are blamed for men's distractions. That still goes on. Even when they follow the dress code, female high school students, professionals, and tourists continue to face regular harassment and reprimands for dressing in a way that is deemed distracting. Years of religious influence have created that social response. The "distracting woman" is like a Pavlov's Bell taught over centuries.
I don't think virginity is a myth, but I think the stigmas and myths about it are based in control. I think there's an argument to be made that it is a construct and not necessarily biological. No body part of mine was irreparably altered. Men don't have a hymen, but I think we do have a cherry. Something in me changed; that's how I knew mine was lost. It wasn't through the first time I had sex, or the second or third... it was years into a complicated relationship that it broke.
I think men aren't taught to think in terms of being entered, but regardless of whose body parts are in who, I felt I lost my virginity when I felt entered. It took years chipping away at it for me to feel I'd let somebody in. The sensation of giving myself over more than biologically was my cherry popped. It was more in my brain than anywhere else.
It's funny because we're taught to think of virginity as something to be lost, whereas I felt when I was truly no longer a virgin, it was because I gained something.
Listening to women discuss this and divulge how they feel is really interesting but also tells me just how different we are, at least as far as sex is concerned. To me it seems like women have it easy. You don't have to do anything, you can live as-is and you never have to prove a thing to anyone. Living as-is is actually encouraged! Life on easy mode. I don't think women have it easy, but I think there's a misnomer that men have it easy that's not true either.
I'll have to read the rest of the thread too. The comment about it being too bad that boys don't have a cherry is what prompted my response because I feel we certainly do. For the most part, I think a bunch of holier than thou men created these rules centuries ago by putting women on a pedestal of distraction from spirituality, and men and women have been suffering for it ever since, but society's less forgiving of women for it.
Then again, I also think there's a segment of society fascinated with women's high sex drives and designates them nymphomaniacs, which I'm skeptical of as a term because from a male point of view, a female nymphomaniac is like a blessing on Earth, but the male version is treated by society as a sex addict who needs help.
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Post by San926f on Feb 13, 2024 17:57:10 GMT
Interesting concept as long as watching the video isn't required.
It seems to me that the intention behind virginity is to stigmatize sex for any purpose other than reproduction. I think it's a social control. Men feel it too. Women got the worse half of it because women's bodies are blamed for men's distractions. That still goes on. Even when they follow the dress code, female high school students, professionals, and tourists continue to face regular harassment and reprimands for dressing in a way that is deemed distracting. Years of religious influence have created that social response. The "distracting woman" is like a Pavlov's Bell taught over centuries.
I don't think virginity is a myth, but I think the stigmas and myths about it are based in control. I think there's an argument to be made that it is a construct and not necessarily biological. No body part of mine was irreparably altered. Men don't have a hymen, but I think we do have a cherry. Something in me changed; that's how I knew mine was lost. It wasn't through the first time I had sex, or the second or third... it was years into a complicated relationship that it broke.
I think men aren't taught to think in terms of being entered, but regardless of whose body parts are in who, I felt I lost my virginity when I felt entered. It took years chipping away at it for me to feel I'd let somebody in. The sensation of giving myself over more than biologically was my cherry popped. It was more in my brain than anywhere else.
It's funny because we're taught to think of virginity as something to be lost, whereas I felt when I was truly no longer a virgin, it was because I gained something.
Listening to women discuss this and divulge how they feel is really interesting but also tells me just how different we are, at least as far as sex is concerned. To me it seems like women have it easy. You don't have to do anything, you can live as-is and you never have to prove a thing to anyone. Living as-is is actually encouraged! Life on easy mode. No, they don't. There is a constant focus on what women do with their bodies, and the double standards are astounding. There is a conversation going on about one right now in another thread about this actually, actually. I remember one absurd conversation on here describing women as locks and men as keys or some shit? How women are "gatekeepers" to sex? It was such a medievil mentality, and essentially releases men of any accountability of their sexual proclivities. It's what puts women in burkas in some parts of the world. Men have no control over their urges, so that whore better not show any ankle. I get why someone may want to marry a virgin for religious reasons. I've known men AND women who desired that, and I think that's fine, and actually very sweet. I also think it's no one else's business or place to judge. And it's the same for anyone. I'm going to be 47-years-old in a few months. I am certainly no virgin. And guess what? I have no regrets about the lovers I've had, because they were men I cared for deeply, and still do. Anyone else wants to judge me for it, go ahead, you're opinion and 25 cents won't even buy a cup of coffee.
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Post by ayatollah on Feb 13, 2024 18:26:15 GMT
Listening to women discuss this and divulge how they feel is really interesting but also tells me just how different we are, at least as far as sex is concerned. To me it seems like women have it easy. You don't have to do anything, you can live as-is and you never have to prove a thing to anyone. Living as-is is actually encouraged! Life on easy mode. I don't think women have it easy, but I think there's a misnomer that men have it easy that's not true either.
I'll have to read the rest of the thread too. The comment about it being too bad that boys don't have a cherry is what prompted my response because I feel we certainly do. For the most part, I think a bunch of holier than thou men created these rules centuries ago by putting women on a pedestal of distraction from spirituality, and men and women have been suffering for it ever since, but society's less forgiving of women for it.
Then again, I also think there's a segment of society fascinated with women's high sex drives and designates them nymphomaniacs, which I'm skeptical of as a term because from a male point of view, a female nymphomaniac is like a blessing on Earth, but the male version is treated by society as a sex addict who needs help.
Female nymphomania is another double edged sword. Yes, females willing to have sex with many men will be seen as a blessing by many men, but almost no man will truly love her. This goes back to something I said earlier, something I pray to God my daughters understand clearly about men, we have a high "girlfriend material" standard and a much lower "fuckable" standard. Maybe I'm wrong but it seems women have just one standard.
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Post by the knife on Feb 13, 2024 19:13:09 GMT
yes
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Post by ayatollah on Feb 13, 2024 19:29:21 GMT
Listening to women discuss this and divulge how they feel is really interesting but also tells me just how different we are, at least as far as sex is concerned. To me it seems like women have it easy. You don't have to do anything, you can live as-is and you never have to prove a thing to anyone. Living as-is is actually encouraged! Life on easy mode. No, they don't. There is a constant focus on what women do with their bodies, and the double standards are astounding. There is a conversation going on about one right now in another thread about this actually, actually. I remember one absurd conversation on here describing women as locks and men as keys or some shit? How women are "gatekeepers" to sexThey have a higher standard for who they'd have sex with, while men have a low one, and for some men, it's nonexistent, if she has a vagina they'd stick it in. That's what the phrase means. The second part is "...and men are the gatekeepers of relationships". Going back to what I've discussed in this thread.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2024 19:48:29 GMT
No, they don't. There is a constant focus on what women do with their bodies, and the double standards are astounding. There is a conversation going on about one right now in another thread about this actually, actually. I remember one absurd conversation on here describing women as locks and men as keys or some shit? How women are "gatekeepers" to sexThey have a higher standard for who they'd have sex with, while men have a low one, and for some men, it's nonexistent, if she has a vagina they'd stick it in. That's what the phrase means. The second part is "...and men are the gatekeepers of relationships". Going back to what I've discussed in this thread. This is true. Like a lot of women say they have high sex drives, but it's not near a man's. That's why when women who are bodybuilding start taking testosterone, they're like "Oh so that's the sex drive of a man!"
It's also why the male-oriented pornography is one of the, if not the biggest business in the world. You do not see porn for women or strip clubs for women in anywhere close to the capacity that your do for men.
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