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Post by San926f on Feb 13, 2024 23:47:35 GMT
He said men are the gatekeepers of relationships. I find that an absurd statement. Women really dislike this, but often the men they choose to have sex with do not want relationships with them. They find it humiliating and I can see why, but it's the truth. You assume all women want a relationship or a serious relationship. Or they aren't aware going in the guy is a fuckboi. That just isn't true. Sure, some women are naive, but you are infantilizing an entire gender.
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Post by π π π π π πββ¬ Molly on Feb 13, 2024 23:49:50 GMT
I don't think you can broad sweep on something that is so damn individual and personal. To say one sex or the other makes those decisions is just silly. For most of history, women depended on men for their livelyhood. They had no choice but to marry, or be spinsters in the care of their families. In the first world, this has changed. Women have more say in who and when they marry, or if they marry at all. These decisions are now a joint-process. Some men don't like it. That's some tough damn titty tgey're just gonns have to suck up. It's not going back to the way it was. Women got the vote in 1920, and we've been slowly but making sure our daughters and granddaughters would always he able to take care themselves, and do it well, ever since. At 47, I could already be remarried since my husband I split 7-years-ago. I'm not sure if I even want to live with anyone again. I kind of feel like I might be all set. It's not that I don't enjoy the company of men, but I don't need to co-habitate anymore. I'm sure there will come a time when I stop attracting men my own age and +/- a few years. That's okay too. Eventually my estrogen will dry up and I won't care about weekend company anymore either. You don't make the decision for anyone. She makes the decision for herself, as all women now have the freedom to do.
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Post by ayatollah on Feb 13, 2024 23:51:11 GMT
You don't make the decision for anyone. She makes the decision for herself, as all women now have the freedom to do. What did I just say?
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Post by thorshairspray on Feb 13, 2024 23:52:04 GMT
Oops, misread that. Yeah, its the opposite. Women are far more dominant in this area than men. I don't think you can broad sweep on something that is so damn individual and personal. To say one sex or the other makes those decisions is just silly. For most of history, women depended on men for their livelyhood. They had no choice but to marry, or be spinsters in the care of their families. In the first world, this has changed. Women have more say in who and when they marry, or if they marry at all. These decisions are now a joint-process. Some men don't like it. That's some tough damn titty tgey're just gonns have to suck up. It's not going back to the way it was. Women got the vote in 1920, and we've been slowly but surely making sure our daughters and granddaughters would always be able to take care of themselves, and do it well, ever since. At 47, I could already be remarried since my husband I split 7-years-ago. I'm not sure if I even want to live with anyone again. I kind of feel like I might be all set. It's not that I don't enjoy the company of men, but I don't need to co-habitate anymore. I'm sure there will come a time when I stop attracting men my own age and +/- a few years. That's okay too. Eventually my estrogen will dry up and I won't care about weekend company anymore either. Well, I'm talking generally, because on stuff like this you really have to . Society is female dominated, whether people want to admit it or not.
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Post by ayatollah on Feb 13, 2024 23:53:22 GMT
Women really dislike this, but often the men they choose to have sex with do not want relationships with them. They find it humiliating and I can see why, but it's the truth. You assume all women want a relationship or a serious relationship. Or they aren't aware going in the guy is a fuckboi. That just isn't true. Sure, some women are naive, but you are infantilizing an entire gender. I think women just say that as a cope. I don't think women randomly have sex with any male just for the sex. They only do it because he is attractive to her, she'd like a relationship of some type but knows he'll never give it to her. So, he gatekeeped the relationship.
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Post by San926f on Feb 14, 2024 0:01:48 GMT
You assume all women want a relationship or a serious relationship. Or they aren't aware going in the guy is a fuckboi. That just isn't true. Sure, some women are naive, but you are infantilizing an entire gender. I think women just say that as a cope. I don't think women randomly have sex with any male just for the sex. They only do it because he is attractive to her, she'd like a relationship of some type but knows he'll never give it to her. So, he gatekeeped the relationship. I think men wish that was a cope. I can assure you it isn't. Some women are just as bad about "locker room" talk as men are. Fuckbois are not relationship material. No one is trying to turn one into a boyfriend.
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Post by San926f on Feb 14, 2024 0:02:37 GMT
I don't think you can broad sweep on something that is so damn individual and personal. To say one sex or the other makes those decisions is just silly. For most of history, women depended on men for their livelyhood. They had no choice but to marry, or be spinsters in the care of their families. In the first world, this has changed. Women have more say in who and when they marry, or if they marry at all. These decisions are now a joint-process. Some men don't like it. That's some tough damn titty tgey're just gonns have to suck up. It's not going back to the way it was. Women got the vote in 1920, and we've been slowly but surely making sure our daughters and granddaughters would always be able to take care of themselves, and do it well, ever since. At 47, I could already be remarried since my husband I split 7-years-ago. I'm not sure if I even want to live with anyone again. I kind of feel like I might be all set. It's not that I don't enjoy the company of men, but I don't need to co-habitate anymore. I'm sure there will come a time when I stop attracting men my own age and +/- a few years. That's okay too. Eventually my estrogen will dry up and I won't care about weekend company anymore either. Well, I'm talking generally, because on stuff like this you really have to . Society is female dominated, whether people want to admit it or not.Β Fair enough
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Post by π π π π π πββ¬ Molly on Feb 14, 2024 0:13:21 GMT
You assume all women want a relationship or a serious relationship. Or they aren't aware going in the guy is a fuckboi. That just isn't true. Sure, some women are naive, but you are infantilizing an entire gender. I think women just say that as a cope. I don't think women randomly have sex with any male just for the sex. They only do it because he is attractive to her, she'd like a relationship of some type but knows he'll never give it to her. So, he gatekeeped the relationship. I just love it when men proceed to tell women what they think and feel. *rolleyes* GFY, misogynist.
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Post by ayatollah on Feb 14, 2024 0:15:36 GMT
I think women just say that as a cope. I don't think women randomly have sex with any male just for the sex. They only do it because he is attractive to her, she'd like a relationship of some type but knows he'll never give it to her. So, he gatekeeped the relationship. I think men wish that was a cope. I can assure you it isn't. Some women are just as bad about "locker room" talk as men are. Fuckbois are not relationship material. No one is trying to turn one into a boyfriend. So you will have sex with random men just for the sex, just as men do with women? I really wish I hadn't gotten involved in this discussion, you'll never admit that you find that disgusting in this context. In another context you would.
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Post by ayatollah on Feb 14, 2024 0:16:44 GMT
I think women just say that as a cope. I don't think women randomly have sex with any male just for the sex. They only do it because he is attractive to her, she'd like a relationship of some type but knows he'll never give it to her. So, he gatekeeped the relationship. I just love it when men proceed to tell women what they think and feel. *rolleyes* GFY, misogynist. I know what you think and feel because I see it in your behavior.
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Post by jeffersoncody on Feb 14, 2024 0:20:21 GMT
I'll tell you if I ever get to sleep with one Casey.
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Post by π π π π π πββ¬ Molly on Feb 14, 2024 0:22:05 GMT
I just love it when men proceed to tell women what they think and feel. *rolleyes* GFY, misogynist. I know what you think and feel because I see it in your behavior. No you donβt.
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Post by jeffersoncody on Feb 14, 2024 0:25:07 GMT
I just love it when men proceed to tell women what they think and feel. *rolleyes* GFY, misogynist. I know what you think and feel because I see it in your behavior. I'll take your not answering my earlier question as a yes ayatollah, which is almost certainly a good thing! One of you had to know what you were dong. It was a sincere question, I wasn't looking to rag you.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2024 0:25:30 GMT
I think women just say that as a cope. I don't think women randomly have sex with any male just for the sex. They only do it because he is attractive to her, she'd like a relationship of some type but knows he'll never give it to her. So, he gatekeeped the relationship. I think men wish that was a cope. I can assure you it isn't. Some women are just as bad about "locker room" talk as men are. Fuckbois are not relationship material. No one is trying to turn one into a boyfriend. Reminds me of The Chica after we met after leaving a party with questionalble people. Hers was a asshole fuckboi with rumored huge dick. Me with the "campus bicycle" We saw each other the next morning and decided to go to the cafe for breakfast. I asked why oh why did you leave with John? She was like some times a girl just needs to be fucked by a huge dick who has a huge dick.
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Post by San926f on Feb 14, 2024 0:34:41 GMT
I think men wish that was a cope. I can assure you it isn't. Some women are just as bad about "locker room" talk as men are. Fuckbois are not relationship material. No one is trying to turn one into a boyfriend. So you will have sex with random men just for the sex, just as men do with women? I really wish I hadn't gotten involved in this discussion, you'll never admit that you find that disgusting in this context. In another context you would. I never said it was me. I'm too old for that. And it would require too much work than I'm willing to put in. I'm more of a serial monogamist. But I have worked with younger women who do this. One girl was this absolute bombshell that would come to work every monday morning with a new weekend adventure story and a picture of a different cock on her phone. The guy the cock was attached to was always smoking hot, but then again, she was next-level gorgeous. Did I find it disgusting? Not especially. Her life, her body. Whatever. But she wasn't trying to marry these guys either. She did end up getting a serious boyfriend a couple years after I started working there. I left that job, so I don't know what ended up happening.
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