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Post by SciFive on Mar 12, 2024 13:50:52 GMT
Glazer certainly didn't say this. He only cracked down on the Jews in Israel. He blamed Oct 7th on the Jews (as if we had it coming).
The situation is that he cannot empathize with the Jews in Israel because he is too far to the left.
The irony is that Hamas committed the worst Oct 7th atrocities on left wing Jews who had spent their lives trying to help the Palestinians.
This Glazer guy is just shooting his mouth off. The left wing Jews who were mutilated on October 7th lost their lives to Hamas.
Left wing press outlets here in Israel are disowning people like Glazer, for good reason. These are left wing Jews disowning left wing Jews for not understanding what's happening here and for being tools for Hamas. Maybe he's better off being disowned then. He seems like a stand up, empathetic, compassionate human being who makes supeb films to me. Suped films? Like souped-up films? :)
Glazer has already abandoned his Jewishness. He said so in his Oscars speech.
It happens, but the Jewish people live on without those who abandon the Jewish people.
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Post by nostromo on Mar 12, 2024 13:52:50 GMT
Maybe he's better off being disowned then. He seems like a stand up, empathetic, compassionate human being who makes supeb films to me. Suped films? Like souped-up films? :)
Glazer has already abandoned his Jewishness. He said so in his Oscars speech.
It happens, but the Jewish people live on without those who abandon the Jewish people.
I'm sure they will. But you are not able to analyse what he said and why he said it. Your mindset won't enable you to look at the situation objectively.
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Post by SciFive on Mar 12, 2024 14:14:58 GMT
Suped films? Like souped-up films?
Glazer has already abandoned his Jewishness. He said so in his Oscars speech.
It happens, but the Jewish people live on without those who abandon the Jewish people. I'm sure they will. But you are not able to analyse what he said and why he said it. Your mindset won't enable you to look at the situation objectively. My mindset is against 9/11 (the suicide bombings where random non-combatants were mass murdered by barbarians).
Obviously, you can't see something like this as wrong.
It's what Hamas does to Jews and other random people.
It's dangerous to western civilization that some westerners can find anything at all reasonable in things like this.
They are as totally unreasonable as any other serial killer in the history of mankind.
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Post by SciFive on Mar 12, 2024 14:18:21 GMT
Hamas uses their own civilians as human shields and they also dress like civilians themselves at times (which is also against the law).
Blending in with civilians puts civilians in danger.
These things have been addressed in international law and Hamas is breaking both of these laws.
What happens to their human shields and civilians is their responsibility according to the laws.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Mar 12, 2024 14:25:00 GMT
There is a third way, sometimes fourth and fifth ways, to think about things, just as there are many options of taking care of Hamas other continuing to kill humans caught in the middle of two extreme one-dimensional forces. You are condemning me for being pro-Hamas when I clearly stated I am not. Why can’t you accept I don’t share your opinion and that does mean I’m siding with the bad guys. Bullshit PaulsLaugh, I know you are not pro-Hamas, I am condemning you for your hypocrisy and your inability to see the big picture. Go back and read what I said. Does that impress you as something I pulled of my ass or never thought about rationally.
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Post by nostromo on Mar 12, 2024 14:33:10 GMT
I'm sure they will. But you are not able to analyse what he said and why he said it. Your mindset won't enable you to look at the situation objectively.
Obviously, you can't see something like this as wrong.
Sorry, what is it, that I am unable to see is 'wrong' ?
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Mar 12, 2024 14:35:34 GMT
The big picture is that even the Director of Zone of Interest sees the genocide of Gaza as the similar to the genocide of Jews in Nazi Germany. Every intelligent person that knows history can see the similarities. There are no similarities between a campaign of extermination planned and executed deliberately on an industrial scale and a few thousand people dying as collateral damage as a result of their "government" refusing to surrender unconditionally. Every honest person that is not blinded by ideology can see that.
There is a comparison, the injustice of you thinking of them as less than human. You are shaming me as “blinded by ideology” with your superior indifference. Anyone who does subscribe
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Mar 12, 2024 14:37:00 GMT
Obviously, you can't see something like this as wrong.
Sorry, what is it, that I am unable to see is 'wrong' ? Any criticism of Israel as a secular nation is forbidden.
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Post by SciFive on Mar 12, 2024 14:46:40 GMT
Obviously, you can't see something like this as wrong.
Sorry, what is it, that I am unable to see is 'wrong' ? You're unable to see that Israel is up against barbarians (Hamas, Fatah, etc) whose organizational goals are to kill Jews and acquire Israel.
Israel defends against them because it's a necessity.
The serial killer barbarians who kill and mutilate random Jews are the black-and-white bad guys who have no justification for their actions.
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Post by nostromo on Mar 12, 2024 14:51:52 GMT
Sorry, what is it, that I am unable to see is 'wrong' ? You're unable to see that Israel is up against barbarians (Hamas, Fatah, etc) whose organizational goals are to kill Jews and acquire Israel.
Israel defends against them because it's a necessity.
The serial killer barbarians who kill and mutilate random Jews are the black-and-white bad guys who have no justification for their actions.
You're unable to see that Israel is up against barbarians (Hamas, Fatah, etc) whose organizational goals are to kill Jews and acquire Israel. Nope. I can see that and agree any senseless killing is wrong.
Israel defends against them because it's a necessity. Yep, I can see Israel is required to defend against Hamas.The serial killer barbarians who kill and mutilate random Jews are the black-and-white bad guys who have no justification for their actions. Yep, any killing of innocent people is abhorrent.
So it is you who needs to do a little reassessing here and understand that people who are horrified by 30,000 innocent people being murdered are not automatically ambivalent to any innocent people being slaughtered by Hamas or any other group of terrorists.
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Post by Boricanator on Mar 12, 2024 14:54:44 GMT
The big picture is that even the Director of Zone of Interest sees the genocide of Gaza as the similar to the genocide of Jews in Nazi Germany. Every intelligent person that knows history can see the similarities. There are no similarities between a campaign of extermination planned and executed deliberately on an industrial scale and a few thousand people dying as collateral damage as a result of their "government" refusing to surrender unconditionally. Every honest person that is not blinded by ideology can see that.
The persecution and destruction has been going on for decades. And in this conflict, it is 30,000. I don’t consider that a few thousand. Make no mistake. This isn’t collateral. This is on purpose. They are just better at hiding it than the Nazis. This is genocide. This is real. Israel will be judged poorly in history for this.
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Post by SciFive on Mar 12, 2024 14:56:37 GMT
You're unable to see that Israel is up against barbarians (Hamas, Fatah, etc) whose organizational goals are to kill Jews and acquire Israel.
Israel defends against them because it's a necessity.
The serial killer barbarians who kill and mutilate random Jews are the black-and-white bad guys who have no justification for their actions.
You're unable to see that Israel is up against barbarians (Hamas, Fatah, etc) whose organizational goals are to kill Jews and acquire Israel. Nope. I can see that and agree any senseless killing is wrong.
Israel defends against them because it's a necessity. Yep, I can see Israel is required to defend against Hamas.The serial killer barbarians who kill and mutilate random Jews are the black-and-white bad guys who have no justification for their actions. Yep, any killing of innocent people is abhorrent.
So it is you who needs to do a little reassessing here and understand that people who are horrified by 30,000 innocent people being murdered are not automatically ambivalent to any innocent people being slaughtered by Hamas or any other group of terrorists. You're missing the part about how Hamas is responsible for what happens to their human shields.
Israel isn't murdering innocents.
Jews will die monstrously horrible deaths again if Israel doesn't go after Hamas (even if they hide under their people's feet and skirts).
The law is on our side, even if the world won't admit this about Jews.
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Post by SciFive on Mar 12, 2024 14:58:25 GMT
Hamas is the danger to the populations on both sides.
Israel isn't going to save all of Hamas's human shields so that Hamas can mutilate Jews over and over and over again (as they have promised to do).
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Post by nostromo on Mar 12, 2024 15:00:52 GMT
You're unable to see that Israel is up against barbarians (Hamas, Fatah, etc) whose organizational goals are to kill Jews and acquire Israel. Nope. I can see that and agree any senseless killing is wrong.
Israel defends against them because it's a necessity. Yep, I can see Israel is required to defend against Hamas.The serial killer barbarians who kill and mutilate random Jews are the black-and-white bad guys who have no justification for their actions. Yep, any killing of innocent people is abhorrent.
So it is you who needs to do a little reassessing here and understand that people who are horrified by 30,000 innocent people being murdered are not automatically ambivalent to any innocent people being slaughtered by Hamas or any other group of terrorists.
Israel isn't murdering innocents.
And I'm done here.
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Post by SciFive on Mar 12, 2024 15:02:36 GMT
Israel isn't murdering innocents.
And I'm done here. At some point in your life, you need to rejoin western civilization.
True self-defense is legal and moral in western civilization.
You've slipped away to western civilization's enemies.
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