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Post by SciFive on Mar 16, 2024 5:14:21 GMT
The haters like to blame Netanyahu for things that started before he was born.
It's weird as hell, but it's their addiction.
They blame everything on Netanyahu.
Embers11 always blamed Netanyahu for everything. I pointed out to her that she and her ilk will condemn Israel just as much when Netanyahu is no longer in office. Israel spent a year (2022) with a left wing government. The haters jumped on Israel just as badly. Those of us who defend Israel (while on the right wing) defended the left wing Israeli government just as much. |
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Mar 16, 2024 9:25:23 GMT
Embers11 always blamed Netanyahu for everything. I pointed out to her that she and her ilk will condemn Israel just as much when Netanyahu is no longer in office. Israel spent a year (2022) with a left wing government. The haters jumped on Israel just as badly. Those of us who defend Israel (while on the right wing) defended the left wing Israeli government just as much. You should really stop conflating any criticism of Israel as being a Jew-hater, because it horrifically insults the millions of people who have died at the hands of real Jew-haters who were also the Good Christians and Right Wingers during the Holocaust. So, there is whole lot of antisemitism in your behavior. |
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Post by SciFive on Mar 16, 2024 9:30:18 GMT
Israel spent a year (2022) with a left wing government. The haters jumped on Israel just as badly. Those of us who defend Israel (while on the right wing) defended the left wing Israeli government just as much. You should really stop conflating any criticism of Israel as being a Jew-hater, because it horrifically insults the millions of people who have died at the hands of real Jew-haters who were also the Good Christians and Right Wingers during the Holocaust. Israel’s only job is to protect the lives of 7.3 million Jews who live in Israel. When people jump all over Israel, they are jumping on the Jews that Israel protects and defends. Israel is treated with lies and double-standards that threaten the job of keeping millions of Jews afloat. |
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Mar 16, 2024 9:39:06 GMT
I haven’t sided with terrorists. I am siding with victims of genocide. Define and show evidence of the genocide you are referring too, terrorist enabler? |
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Post by SciFive on Mar 16, 2024 9:40:56 GMT
Hamas and the other Pal terror groups hate Jews as much as the Nazis ever did.
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Mar 16, 2024 9:44:46 GMT
Well as I said, it's not my reasoning or my logic. It's what you think my reasoning is and with some quote mining on your part too. Not sure if deliberate or not. What I said was: And I gave an example of a massacre that killed 8000 civilians and was considered an act of genocide. Considerably less than the civilian population killed in Gaza. The point being that one doesn't have to attempt to kill every member of a group for something to be considered genocide. Also, a lot of the actions undertaken by the Allies during World War 2 would have not being considered acceptable today given that World War 2 was fought as total war and updates to the laws of war made ever since. I certainly think there would be no merit to the argument that dropping a nuke on a city is acceptable because the US did it in World War 2.
The Serbs were killing Bosnians solely because they were Bosnians. That is Genocide. In contrast, Israel is not trying to kill the Palestinians of Gaza, but only Hamas. Also, a lot of the actions undertaken by the Allies during World War 2 would have not being considered acceptable today given that World War 2 was fought as total war and updates to the laws of war made ever since.
Do you consider them Genocide? By your reasoning, you should. Bosnians were largely Muslim too. |
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Post by Winter_King on Mar 16, 2024 10:20:34 GMT
Well as I said, it's not my reasoning or my logic. It's what you think my reasoning is and with some quote mining on your part too. Not sure if deliberate or not. What I said was: And I gave an example of a massacre that killed 8000 civilians and was considered an act of genocide. Considerably less than the civilian population killed in Gaza. The point being that one doesn't have to attempt to kill every member of a group for something to be considered genocide. Also, a lot of the actions undertaken by the Allies during World War 2 would have not being considered acceptable today given that World War 2 was fought as total war and updates to the laws of war made ever since. I certainly think there would be no merit to the argument that dropping a nuke on a city is acceptable because the US did it in World War 2.
Do you consider them Genocide? By your reasoning, you should. Given it's not my reasoning, I shouldn't. |
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Post by 🐕 🐕 🐕 🐕 🐕 🐈⬛ Molly on Mar 16, 2024 12:25:15 GMT
Israel spent a year (2022) with a left wing government. The haters jumped on Israel just as badly. Those of us who defend Israel (while on the right wing) defended the left wing Israeli government just as much. You should really stop conflating any criticism of Israel as being a Jew-hater, because it horrifically insults the millions of people who have died at the hands of real Jew-haters who were also the Good Christians and Right Wingers during the Holocaust. So, there is whole lot of antisemitism in your behavior. ^^^this. |
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Post by SciFive on Mar 16, 2024 14:37:33 GMT
Earlier today, I read an analysis about the War in Gaza going on now by a journalist who is an American woman who immigrated to Israel and served in the IDF to the level of Captain, I believe.
She said that Biden and the other western diplomats want the Palestinians to win.
It occurred to me that they somehow falsely believe that if the Palestinians win in the current situation, they won’t want to kill Jews anymore.
The killings of random Jews here was happening in 1860 and earlier, so the losses to Israel didn’t start their hatred. Also, the Arab nations attacked Israel in 1948 at her birth, so they weren’t responding to Israel’s actions.
A two state solution would result in Hamas ruling it even if only one guy was left for each position in their first state election. So it can’t happen.
Also, the two state concessions demanded of Israel are out of this world. The new state would keep killing Jews while Israel’s defenses would be severely limited.
So Israel has to keep going to complete the current war and refuse to agree to a single concession to the Pals (which means they won’t declare statehood). They won’t do the declaration until they get what they will never acquire from Israel.
It’s a tough situation but it has to keep moving forward.
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