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Post by abbey1227 on Apr 17, 2024 2:18:21 GMT
Where the F do you people get off? The push was for drivers licenses for how long? Now that that's been accomplished in many areas, the push is to allow them votes.
There's little doubt it's been going on for years.
Bending the rules. Using the Census. Laundering the funds. We get it.
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Post by kiwi on Apr 17, 2024 2:20:23 GMT
If only you needed them to buy a lethal weapon.
legal? or otherwise?
I need an ID to get a prescription. But if I just check in with my local drug dealer in the 8th Grade, then no ID required.
Can you think of another lethal weapon that's quite easy to obtain?
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Post by abbey1227 on Apr 17, 2024 2:40:05 GMT
legal? or otherwise?
I need an ID to get a prescription. But if I just check in with my local drug dealer in the 8th Grade, then no ID required.
Can you think of another lethal weapon that's quite easy to obtain?
I asked you first
We all get how the black market works.
And we've all seen how effective Govt is at stopping things like illegal people, drugs or weapons.
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Post by CowherPowerForever on Apr 17, 2024 13:43:20 GMT
Exactly, everyone has to pay for a driver's license. Which in turn is used as ID verification. Some people choose not to drive, but they still need ID regardless. My assumption would be it's the older people who might have a harder time getting an ID. Make it easier and let's end this debate once and for all. A lot of older people, my folks included, stop driving (or are stopped from driving). What's the point of getting that DL? My parents both stopped renewing their licenses at some point so their IDs were expired. It's still a form of ID though. And just because you're older and don't drive, doesn't mean you won't be asked for ID at the doctor's office for example.
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Post by CowherPowerForever on Apr 17, 2024 13:47:47 GMT
Exactly, everyone has to pay for a driver's license. Which in turn is used as ID verification. Some people choose not to drive, but they still need ID regardless. My assumption would be it's the older people who might have a harder time getting an ID. Make it easier and let's end this debate once and for all. Why is it that most folks caught voting illegally were Republicans and elected officials willing to back Trump’s coup were Republicans. It’s frustrating that you keep blaming the wrong people, usually the poorest. This is call talking out of both sides of your mouth. You lost the debate already. Going overboard on the Trump nonsense because it makes you feel good. This isn't a left or right issue whatsoever. It's common sense. You literally need an ID to do most things, I'll even mention some, buying alcohol, driving, it's also used on your tax return, doctors visits, and the list goes on, but for voting it's extreme to say we should ask for an ID. 🤦♂️ I've already said here and many times before that I support people who aren't in the position where they think they might need an ID, the government should help them. In reality this group would be extremely small anway. That alone tosses out the ridiculous notion that it's somehow a poll tax.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Apr 17, 2024 14:01:14 GMT
Why is it that most folks caught voting illegally were Republicans and elected officials willing to back Trump’s coup were Republicans. It’s frustrating that you keep blaming the wrong people, usually the poorest. This is call talking out of both sides of your mouth. You lost the debate already. Going overboard on the Trump nonsense because it makes you feel good. This isn't a left or right issue whatsoever. It's common sense. You literally need an ID to do most things, I'll even mention some, buying alcohol, driving, it's also used on your tax return, doctors visits, and the list goes on, but for voting it's extreme to say we should ask for an ID. 🤦♂️ I've already said here and many times before that I people aren't in the position where they think they might need an ID, the government should help then. In reality this group would be extremely small anway. That alone tosses out the ridiculous notion that it's somehow a poll tax. The nonsense is accepting behavior from people you’d otherwise spit upon in Donald Trump. But what saying is, it does not matter how many time the Democrats give in the Republicans, it’s never enough. The GOP speaker’s of the House head is on chopping block again. You do see the chaos?
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Post by CowherPowerForever on Apr 17, 2024 14:05:33 GMT
You lost the debate already. Going overboard on the Trump nonsense because it makes you feel good. This isn't a left or right issue whatsoever. It's common sense. You literally need an ID to do most things, I'll even mention some, buying alcohol, driving, it's also used on your tax return, doctors visits, and the list goes on, but for voting it's extreme to say we should ask for an ID. 🤦♂️ I've already said here and many times before that I people aren't in the position where they think they might need an ID, the government should help then. In reality this group would be extremely small anway. That alone tosses out the ridiculous notion that it's somehow a poll tax. The nonsense is accepting behavior from people you’d otherwise spit in Donald Trump. He's your boogeyman, so anything even remotely related to the Republican Party is now evil. Sorry, a voter ID law is perfectly reasonable. Whether you have the guts to admit it or not.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Apr 17, 2024 14:07:26 GMT
The nonsense is accepting behavior from people you’d otherwise spit in Donald Trump. He's your boogeyman, so anything even remotely related to the Republican Party is now evil. Sorry, a voter ID law is perfectly reasonable. Whether you have the guts to admit it or not. Can you not see reality? Where is all the chaos coming from? Think over all the things you know Trump has done. Would you have done any one of them?
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Post by CowherPowerForever on Apr 17, 2024 14:17:38 GMT
He's your boogeyman, so anything even remotely related to the Republican Party is now evil. Sorry, a voter ID law is perfectly reasonable. Whether you have the guts to admit it or not. Can you not see reality? Where is all the chaos coming from? Think over all the things you know Trump has done. Would you have done any one of them? You need to come back to reality from the shit stain you live in. We've been discussing voter ID long before Trump.
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Post by Isapop on Apr 17, 2024 15:17:25 GMT
You lost the debate already. Going overboard on the Trump nonsense because it makes you feel good. This isn't a left or right issue whatsoever. It's common sense. You literally need an ID to do most things, I'll even mention some, buying alcohol, driving, it's also used on your tax return, doctors visits, and the list goes on, but for voting it's extreme to say we should ask for an ID. 🤦♂️ I've already said here and many times before that I support people who aren't in the position where they think they might need an ID, the government should help them. In reality this group would be extremely small anway. That alone tosses out the ridiculous notion that it's somehow a poll tax. The bill is not about needing an I.D. An I.D. (driver's license, student, military, SS card, etc.) is not sufficient. The bill requires documentary proof of citizenship. In almost all cases, that means either birth certificate or passport. There are lots of citizens who have neither.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Apr 17, 2024 15:22:56 GMT
Can you not see reality? Where is all the chaos coming from? Think over all the things you know Trump has done. Would you have done any one of them? You need to come back to reality from the shit stain you live in. We've been discussing voter ID long before Trump. I’m talking about once the Voter ID is the uniform law of land… which I do not object to…then that too will be declared by the Right corrupted by the liberal left, election stealing Democrats, and something more strict, and probably anti-constitutional, will be needed. And after that law is place after the long “discussion,” then it too will fail to meet the standards of a fair, “may the best man win,” election. And on and on.
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Post by kiwi on Apr 17, 2024 15:23:27 GMT
Can you think of another lethal weapon that's quite easy to obtain?
I asked you first
We all get how the black market works.
And we've all seen how effective Govt is at stopping things like illegal people, drugs or weapons.
You're always championing guns. That precedes this thread. Should they be easier to obtain than, your example, a prescription?
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Post by abbey1227 on Apr 18, 2024 2:04:53 GMT
I asked you first
We all get how the black market works.
And we've all seen how effective Govt is at stopping things like illegal people, drugs or weapons.
You're always championing guns. That precedes this thread. Should they be easier to obtain than, your example, a prescription?
Yes...........but only because you shouldn't need the approval of some doctor
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Post by darkramj on Apr 18, 2024 19:37:59 GMT
By GOD I had to provide proof of ID to vote. And if I had to provide proof so does everybody else. If the dems don't like it ------ tough shit.
Do you have a list of ALL the things you can't do in this country without an ID? Many of them Govt related Yeah...but no. Yes, it's completely ridiculous and palpably corrupt to oppose an ID requirement to vote. Only someone hoping to rig elections wants to prevent that. But my objection to this is the establishment of a FEDERAL ID CARD. And every election-securing benefit it offers can be achieved without mandating that. States conduct elections because states have rights...but the fed can mandate ID requirement for state participation in federal elections and that is entirely different from the fed issuing you Soviet-style citizenship "papers".
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Apr 18, 2024 19:58:17 GMT
But my objection to this is the establishment of a FEDERAL ID CARD. That's been my concern for many years, but I've noticed that when you try to talk about it, two things happen. 1) Those on the "Left" prove what compassionate people they are by mocking you and calling you uncomplimentary names. 2) Those on the "Right" pretend like they don't know you.
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