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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2023 19:30:05 GMT
By the way, remember how you took issue with Green Rabbit referring to “gaysexuals”? Lol. I was just giving her a hard time.
C'mon, even you have to admit that it becomes rather arbitrary which words are acceptable and which are not. If people tell me they object to a term, I won't call them that. But in general, if the words are used honestly and not merely to offend, I don't see a problem.
I just remember you referring to the term as homophobic. I guess referring to a dark skinned person a darkie is okay because they are dark. |
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Post by dlancer on Jun 26, 2023 19:30:57 GMT
Gay and trans people procreate less in a world population that's getting out of control.
Honestly you should thank them.
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Post by dlancer on Jun 26, 2023 19:44:20 GMT
That Patient Zero was indeed promiscuous, but that doesn't represent all gay men any more than hetero men that are promiscuous represent all hetero men. Gaeton Dugas shared some of his contacts with the CDC, but it was never quantified for a total of how many people he had exposed or infected, because of the anonymous nature of his contacts. Go watch "And the Band Played On", based on Randy Shilt's book. Or better yet, go read "The Coming Plague: Newly Emerging Diseases in a World out of Balance" by Laurie Garrett. Published in 1993, it covers not just AIDS but Ebola, Bolivian Hemorrhagic Fever, Dengue Fever, Malaria, even Legionnaire's disease. Here's the link to the website: www.lauriegarrett.com/the-coming-plagueThe "but not all gay people are promiscuous" fallacy. How many non celebrity hetero men do you know that had sex with 1250 people? Gay people are far more promiscuous on average and it isn't even close. That's why the culture is so infested with AIDS.
It's a bit more complex than that.
Gay people are simultaneously more at risk and less at risk because of biology more than promiscuity.
Gay men are more at risk than hetero couples because gay male couples have two transmitters and two potential receivers.
Hetero couples only have one genuine transmitter and one genuine receiver.
Lesbian women are less riskier than hetero couples because those couples are two genuine receivers with no genuine transmitter.
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Post by Prince Myshkin on Jun 26, 2023 20:44:40 GMT
Lol. I was just giving her a hard time.
C'mon, even you have to admit that it becomes rather arbitrary which words are acceptable and which are not. If people tell me they object to a term, I won't call them that. But in general, if the words are used honestly and not merely to offend, I don't see a problem.
I just remember you referring to the term as homophobic. I guess referring to a dark skinned person a darkie is okay because they are dark. C'mon."Gaysexual"? That's offensive in its stupidity. It sounds like something a 12-year-old would say.
Darkie is rather stupid as well.
"Faggot" is a strong word and speaks to our oppression. I use it like black folks use the 'n' word. I was also attacked on a gay forum for using "faggot".
It's not cut and dried. I want no across the board bans on any word. They can all be used effectively.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2023 20:58:22 GMT
I just remember you referring to the term as homophobic. I guess referring to a dark skinned person a darkie is okay because they are dark. C'mon."Gaysexual"? That's offensive in its stupidity. It sounds like something a 12-year-old would say.
Darkie is rather stupid as well.
"Faggot" is a strong word and speaks to our oppression. I use it like black folks use the 'n' word. I was also attacked on a gay forum for using "faggot".
It's not cut and dried. I want no across the board bans on any word. They can all be used effectively.
It’s silly as is darkie but the latter was used by me because it is offensive but in a way also correct. Personally I don’t find “lame” offensive, it just shows a lack of respect. Funny story from the old place. Yoyoofloco once started a thread about me (without mentioning me) where he went on about crippled kids being bullied and ending up in a land of doodles. Later Drew criticised you for using the term cripples but for some reason didn’t criticise Yoyo. He just bounced Yoyo’s thread a few times but I must admit that I bounced it a lot more simply because I thought it was was stupid. Outrage can be selective and I guess I did a bit of that. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2023 20:59:09 GMT
Gay and trans people procreate less in a world population that's getting out of control.
Honestly you should thank them.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2023 21:07:49 GMT
True...if things keep going as they are....births will continue to drop dramatically...and so will the economy...unless, of course, we can grow babies in a lab, by then...either way, i won't be around, thank God....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2023 21:10:56 GMT
True...if things keep going as they are....births will continue to drop dramatically...and so will the economy...unless, of course, we can grow babies in a lab, by then...either way, i won't be around, thank God.... That's the best news I've heard all day on this forum!!!! what? that i won't be around?! ![[frown]](http://storage.proboards.com/6870873/images/FySwlyxIVZHczdwVyYqH.gif) |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2023 21:44:38 GMT
what? that i won't be around?! That we ALL won't be around. People have turned into real life NPCs. I'm convinced this isn't real. I refuse to believe people are this stupid. When people don't know what a woman is, we don't deserve to survive. Think positive. People used to believe cigarettes were healthy and we still survived. ![[smoke]](http://storage.proboards.com/6870873/images/qgeeSqOIKfyMhSQtjnNk.gif) |
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Post by scream on Jun 26, 2023 22:01:12 GMT
A good friend of mine acquired HIV from her husband who was sharing needles. "Gay" had nothing to do with it. He died from the disease, but hers was caught early enough that she had a longer life span. It is an infectious disease that doesn't care how it gets transmitted or to whom. Again, it just looks for suitable hosts. Okay. So he's part of the minority in how people catch AIDS. Statistically speaking, he probably shared the needle with a gay person. And yes, as I cited, straight sex has a 2% chance of transmission but anal sex has 20% transmission rate. Guess which one the gays are having? And much more frequently and promiscuously I might add. How do you know that sharing needles is a minor way that people catch AIDS? If you would read the book I recommended to you, you would find that in retrospect, scientists postulated that the outbreak in the USA STARTED with IV drug use on the East Coast, which overlapped into the gay community. The media back then didn't cover how many drug addicts died of AIDS, they just reported that drug addicts were dying. Back then, they didn't even have a test available for the virus; not until hemophiliacs and transplant patients started being diagnosed did the blood industry even consider testing because the Hepatitis test wasn't 100% accurate. By the way, anyone who shares a needle, shares it with everyone that the other person ever shared a needle with. Just like unprotected sex. Both gay and straight. You just won't rest until you have made it known to the world that sinful homosexuals are the reason AIDS exists, which in reality is false, but again, you simply have your bible-thumping agenda. Sin!!!! Homosexuals!!! AIDS!!! God's Mighty Wrath!!!! NO. Infectious disease transmission of a virus. Science. Epidemiology. Evolution. Facts. Observable, testable, repeatable... |
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Post by averagejoe2021 on Jun 26, 2023 22:07:02 GMT
Okay. So he's part of the minority in how people catch AIDS. Statistically speaking, he probably shared the needle with a gay person. And yes, as I cited, straight sex has a 2% chance of transmission but anal sex has 20% transmission rate. Guess which one the gays are having? And much more frequently and promiscuously I might add. How do you know that sharing needles is a minor way that people catch AIDS? If you would read the book I recommended to you, you would find that in retrospect, scientists postulated that the outbreak in the USA STARTED with IV drug use on the East Coast, which overlapped into the gay community. The media back then didn't cover how many drug addicts died of AIDS, they just reported that drug addicts were dying. Back then, they didn't even have a test available for the virus; not until hemophiliacs and transplant patients started being diagnosed did the blood industry even consider testing because the Hepatitis test wasn't 100% accurate. By the way, anyone who shares a needle, shares it with everyone that the other person ever shared a needle with. Just like unprotected sex. Both gay and straight. You just won't rest until you have made it known to the world that sinful homosexuals are the reason AIDS exists, which in reality is false, but again, you simply have your bible-thumping agenda. Sin!!!! Homosexuals!!! AIDS!!! God's Mighty Wrath!!!! NO. Infectious disease transmission of a virus. Science. Evolution. Facts. That's actually pretty interesting. I wasn't aware of the high initial spread due to needles. I mean... it makes sense, obviously. But I recalled the initial scenarios it was found was in Haitian refugees and then the bathhouses. The spread was faster there but then became increasingly mainstream to lower risk recipients. However, the rate of STD spread was still higher in certain communities, was it not? |
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Post by scream on Jun 26, 2023 22:16:04 GMT
How do you know that sharing needles is a minor way that people catch AIDS? If you would read the book I recommended to you, you would find that in retrospect, scientists postulated that the outbreak in the USA STARTED with IV drug use on the East Coast, which overlapped into the gay community. The media back then didn't cover how many drug addicts died of AIDS, they just reported that drug addicts were dying. Back then, they didn't even have a test available for the virus; not until hemophiliacs and transplant patients started being diagnosed did the blood industry even consider testing because the Hepatitis test wasn't 100% accurate. By the way, anyone who shares a needle, shares it with everyone that the other person ever shared a needle with. Just like unprotected sex. Both gay and straight. You just won't rest until you have made it known to the world that sinful homosexuals are the reason AIDS exists, which in reality is false, but again, you simply have your bible-thumping agenda. Sin!!!! Homosexuals!!! AIDS!!! God's Mighty Wrath!!!! NO. Infectious disease transmission of a virus. Science. Evolution. Facts. That's actually pretty interesting. I wasn't aware of the high initial spread due to needles. I mean... it makes sense, obviously. But I recalled the initial scenarios it was found was in Haitian refugees and then the bathhouses. The spread was faster there but then became increasingly mainstream to lower risk recipients. However, the rate of STD spread was still higher in certain communities, was it not? Yes, in New York and New Jersey, it spread initially in IV drug users, that overlapped into the gay community, and then through that population to San Francisco and Los Angeles. Yes, the sexually transmitted part spread more rapidly in the gay community, but there were multiple ways it spread into other communities. If you really are interested in the full story - but be forewarned, this is a long and complex read - use the link to the site I provided earlier in the thread to find the book by Laurie Garrett, a scientist and doctor who has documented not just AIDS but many other infectious diseases. |
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Post by averagejoe2021 on Jun 26, 2023 22:19:55 GMT
That's actually pretty interesting. I wasn't aware of the high initial spread due to needles. I mean... it makes sense, obviously. But I recalled the initial scenarios it was found was in Haitian refugees and then the bathhouses. The spread was faster there but then became increasingly mainstream to lower risk recipients. However, the rate of STD spread was still higher in certain communities, was it not? Yes, in New York and New Jersey, it spread initially in IV drug users, that overlapped into the gay community, and then through that population to San Francisco and Los Angeles. Yes, the sexually transmitted part spread more rapidly in the gay community, but there were multiple ways it spread into other communities. If you really are interested in the full story - but be forewarned, this is a long and complex read - use the link to the site I provided earlier in the thread to find the book by Laurie Garrett, a scientist and doctor who has documented not just AIDS but many other infectious diseases. I will definitely check it out. I appreciate the reference for it. ** I did recall the movie "And the Band Played on" starring Mathew Modine. It mapped out the spread, the bureaucracy, politics, ego, etc. I realize some dramatization had to occur, but the film was still very compelling. |
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Post by scream on Jun 26, 2023 22:25:51 GMT
Yes, in New York and New Jersey, it spread initially in IV drug users, that overlapped into the gay community, and then through that population to San Francisco and Los Angeles. Yes, the sexually transmitted part spread more rapidly in the gay community, but there were multiple ways it spread into other communities. If you really are interested in the full story - but be forewarned, this is a long and complex read - use the link to the site I provided earlier in the thread to find the book by Laurie Garrett, a scientist and doctor who has documented not just AIDS but many other infectious diseases. I will definitely check it out. I appreciate the reference for it. ** I did recall the movie "And the Band Played on" starring Mathew Modine. It mapped out the spread, the bureaucracy, politics, ego, etc. I realize some dramatization had to occur, but the film was still very compelling. Yes, it was compelling. You might remember the scene where Matthew Modine yells at the head of the blood industry for not even trying to screen blood donors. "How many dead hemophiliacs do you need? A hundred? A thousand? Give us a number so we won't annoy you until you start spending more money on LAWSUITS than on saving people." |
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Post by averagejoe2021 on Jun 26, 2023 22:29:17 GMT
I will definitely check it out. I appreciate the reference for it. ** I did recall the movie "And the Band Played on" starring Mathew Modine. It mapped out the spread, the bureaucracy, politics, ego, etc. I realize some dramatization had to occur, but the film was still very compelling. Yes, it was compelling. You might remember the scene where Matthew Modine yells at the head of the blood industry for not even trying to screen blood donors. "How many dead hemophiliacs do you need? A hundred? A thousand? Give us a number so we won't annoy you until you start spending more money on LAWSUITS than on saving people." Yes!!!!! That was perhaps the most pivotal part. I also took note of the scene where the board denied screening due to cost and one of the few dissenters added... when doctors start acting like businessmen.. who can the people turn to for doctors? |
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