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Post by lowtacks86 on Apr 13, 2024 15:29:32 GMT
Because it would trigger the libs or some idiotic nonsense like that
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Apr 13, 2024 15:38:49 GMT
Seismic shifts like Biden dragging the United States into war with Iran and the Middle East because of Israel? It is true that government in the United States is far too large. That problem became especially worse in order to win WWII. It has been rather difficult to undo that. Trump and his base think they can undo that. A problem is that Trump is too much of a nationalist. His nationalism has infected Israel, especially after he moved the U.S. Embassy for Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. The Jewish people and longstanding tradition are not such nationalists in character. That has been a reason for their remarkable ability to share space in the Middle East. The current trouble owes considerably to an energized nationalism of Israel. An irony is that Trump's nationalism is the result of government being too large. He and his base grew up with high expectations of what they can accomplish -- by using force of government. Trump wants more participation by European countries in a military solution as if there is one. There is a geopolitical implication for you, The Herald Erjen .
Banning abortion is yet another misuse of government force. People who are actually religious would rather their church deal with the problems and solutions to that and other social problems. That would really be smaller government.
Look bud, I've got my own reason for not wanting Orange Man back in again, but you wouldn't understand it. That being said, it's either him or a second helping of the demented old fool who's in office now. That's it. Nothing in between. Nice choice, huh? You can do what you want. I'm not voting ever again. Was it George Carlin who said that if voting mattered, they wouldn't let us do it? Whover said it, he was right.
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Post by Isapop on Apr 13, 2024 15:50:34 GMT
Look bud, I've got my own reason for not wanting Orange Man back in again, but you wouldn't understand it. And maybe I wouldn't either (maybe I would). But somebody on this board might. So, why not just give it a shot? There's nothing to lose.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Apr 13, 2024 15:56:08 GMT
Look bud, I've got my own reason for not wanting Orange Man back in again, but you wouldn't understand it. And maybe I wouldn't either (maybe I would). But somebody on this board might. So, why not just give it a shot? There's nothing to lose. Doubtful. It takes too long to explain anyway, and I've got other things to do. He's going to win my state. He won it the last two times, and he'll do it this time too. Guaranteed. You'll just have to content yourself with the knowledge that he won't be getting a vote from me which he doesn't even need. Best I can do for you.
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Post by peachy on Apr 13, 2024 15:57:10 GMT
Olaf Plunket, if he's "not really" any of those things, then why don't you like him?
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Post by lowtacks86 on Apr 13, 2024 16:00:10 GMT
Olaf Plunket , if he's "not really" any of those things, then why don't you like him? Because he's a boomer that wants Ronald Reagan's resurrected corpse for President
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Post by Olaf Plunket on Apr 13, 2024 16:56:30 GMT
Olaf Plunket , if he's "not really" any of those things, then why don't you like him? Have I not explained that already? I believe I have. Where are you pretending to be meanwhile? I could write book on it, but let's keep it short for this board. I have long understood that the best use of the party of the Democrats from before it was the party of the "Democrats" is merely to be a check on the power of government. Things can seem to reverse after they figured out how to use government handouts. Now it's flipped and the Republicans who need worry about abuse by government, or that sort of abuse anyway. Never minding that, Democrats are still the party that protects people from the rules going too far, just not rules about handouts. I have also long understood that the true purpose of government is its unique ability to coerce. Most people do not like coercion, but in order to protect them from coercion, the government must use certain minimal levels of coercion against criminals who would otherwise wreak havoc levels of coercion against law abiding citizens. Government can coerce people to pay fines or stay locked up, but that should only be to the purpose of protecting others from coercion. See that "bill of attainder" is not allowed by the Constitution. Also notice that private citizens cannot coerce any fines or imprisonment by themselves. The reason I myself dislike Trump is that he has no clue how any government works, whichever party. He probably would not succeed at real estate if not for his good looks in his youth and his father's money. I do not consider real estate a career myself. You might have heard recent news about reducing real estate transaction fees. I must say though how much it does annoy me that so many Republicans have no idea who he really is.
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Post by Olaf Plunket on Apr 13, 2024 17:28:42 GMT
It is true that government in the United States is far too large. That problem became especially worse in order to win WWII. It has been rather difficult to undo that. Trump and his base think they can undo that. A problem is that Trump is too much of a nationalist. His nationalism has infected Israel, especially after he moved the U.S. Embassy for Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. The Jewish people and longstanding tradition are not such nationalists in character. That has been a reason for their remarkable ability to share space in the Middle East. The current trouble owes considerably to an energized nationalism of Israel. An irony is that Trump's nationalism is the result of government being too large. He and his base grew up with high expectations of what they can accomplish -- by using force of government. Trump wants more participation by European countries in a military solution as if there is one. There is a geopolitical implication for you, The Herald Erjen . Banning abortion is yet another misuse of government force. People who are actually religious would rather their church deal with the problems and solutions to that and other social problems. That would really be smaller government.
Look bud, I've got my own reason for not wanting Orange Man back in again, but you wouldn't understand it. That being said, it's either him or a second helping of the demented old fool who's in office now. That's it. Nothing in between. Nice choice, huh? You can do what you want. I'm not voting ever again. Was it George Carlin who said that if voting mattered, they wouldn't let us do it? Whover said it, he was right. I believe you are more aware of the growing disregard for the will of the people than others here. I understand your apprehensions. They are indeed justified. I myself understand that no elite group can succeed very long against the will of the people. No government can can succeed if the people do not cooperate. That is why democracy is the best form of government. It recognizes this fundamental principle. It is therefore imperative that leaders legitimately persuade the people of the efficacy of policies. It is not however true that the majority is always "right" or logical. Argumentum ad populum is a logical fallacy because there is no guarantee the majority will exercise logic. Don't get it backward. Do not decide what is right based merely on a majority. Decide what is right in a sensible manner, only then persuade people that it is.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Apr 13, 2024 17:39:08 GMT
Look bud, I've got my own reason for not wanting Orange Man back in again, but you wouldn't understand it. That being said, it's either him or a second helping of the demented old fool who's in office now. That's it. Nothing in between. Nice choice, huh? You can do what you want. I'm not voting ever again. Was it George Carlin who said that if voting mattered, they wouldn't let us do it? Whover said it, he was right. I believe you are more aware of the growing disregard for the will of the people than others here. I understand your apprehensions. They are indeed justified. I myself understand that no elite group can succeed very long against the will of the people. No government can can succeed if the people do not cooperate. That is why democracy is the best form of government. It recognizes this fundamental principle. It is therefore imperative that leaders legitimately persuade the people of the efficacy of policies. It is not however true that the majority is always "right" or logical. Argumentum ad populum is a logical fallacy because there is no guarantee the majority will exercise logic. Don't get it backward though. Do not decide what is right based merely on a majority. Decide what is right in sensible manner, only then persuade people that it is. Thanks. There's nothing we can do to stop it. They're going to have the world and everything in it in six more years. It has been foretold. If the people had exercised their will ten years ago, maybe the Globalism could have been delayed for a later time, but it's academic now because what could have happened ten years ago did not happen. I'd better stop before I start sounding like that poster child for defeatism, Bill Paxton's character in "Aliens."
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Post by Olaf Plunket on Apr 13, 2024 17:43:47 GMT
I believe you are more aware of the growing disregard for the will of the people than others here. I understand your apprehensions. They are indeed justified. I myself understand that no elite group can succeed very long against the will of the people. No government can can succeed if the people do not cooperate. That is why democracy is the best form of government. It recognizes this fundamental principle. It is therefore imperative that leaders legitimately persuade the people of the efficacy of policies. It is not however true that the majority is always "right" or logical. Argumentum ad populum is a logical fallacy because there is no guarantee the majority will exercise logic. Don't get it backward. Do not decide what is right based merely on a majority. Decide what is right in a sensible manner, only then persuade people that it is. Thanks. There's nothing we can do to stop it. They're going to have the world and everything in it in six more years. It has been foretold. If the people had exercised their will ten years ago, maybe the Globalism could have been delayed for a later time, but it's academic now because what could have happened ten years ago did not happen. I'd better stop before I start sounding like that poster child for defeatism, Bill Paxton's character in "Aliens."
Without a sense of justice it will defeat itself.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Apr 13, 2024 17:50:21 GMT
Thanks. There's nothing we can do to stop it. They're going to have the world and everything in it in six more years. It has been foretold. If the people had exercised their will ten years ago, maybe the Globalism could have been delayed for a later time, but it's academic now because what could have happened ten years ago did not happen. I'd better stop before I start sounding like that poster child for defeatism, Bill Paxton's character in "Aliens."
Without a sense of justice it will defeat itself.
Granted, but it takes a while for that to happen, and our sufferings will not be alleviated in the meantime. By the same token, I doubt that foreknowledge of the Nazi's eventual defeat was of much comfort to someone in Klaus Barbie's torture room.
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Post by Boricanator on Apr 13, 2024 17:55:57 GMT
Right now there are no rational reasons to change Biden for Trump
The economy is doing well, the country is stable, crime is going down and the U.S. is not in any wars for the first time since 2001.
Plus, Biden is physically and mentally fit to continue as President.
But under Trump, the economy tanked (yes, he’s the reason the Covid recession was so bad), there were riots all over the country and there was an attempt he fueled to prevent the peaceful transition of power. To top it off, he’s been found liable for sexual assault and is facing 91 criminal charges.
This isn’t a douch vs turd situation.
Biden is a competent President and Trump was not.
If you prefer Trump over Biden, you are ignorant.
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Post by Olaf Plunket on Apr 13, 2024 17:58:40 GMT
Without a sense of justice it will defeat itself.
Granted, but it takes a while for that to happen, and our sufferings will not be alleviated in the meantime. By the same token, I doubt that foreknowledge of the Nazi's eventual defeat was of much comfort to someone in Klaus Barbie's torture room. I see serious problems today but no longer Nazis.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Apr 13, 2024 17:59:40 GMT
Granted, but it takes a while for that to happen, and our sufferings will not be alleviated in the meantime. By the same token, I doubt that foreknowledge of the Nazi's eventual defeat was of much comfort to someone in Klaus Barbie's torture room. I see serious problems today but no longer Nazis. They don't wear armbands and jackboots anymore, but they're still here.
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Post by Isapop on Apr 13, 2024 17:59:47 GMT
And maybe I wouldn't either (maybe I would). But somebody on this board might. So, why not just give it a shot? There's nothing to lose. Doubtful. It takes too long to explain anyway, and I've got other things to do. He's going to win my state. He won it the last two times, and he'll do it this time too. Guaranteed. You'll just have to content yourself with the knowledge that he won't be getting a vote from me which he doesn't even need. Best I can do for you. Right, much too busy to provide even a glimpse into why you want Trump to lose, but not too busy to make this post of yours. Such lameness seems positively cowardly. (Something tells me you won't be too busy to respond to this.)
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