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Post by notoriousnobbi on Aug 11, 2023 7:15:21 GMT
Forget it, If You don't get it by now then You won't get it anyway. This sounds like nobbi-speak for "Stop annoying me with inconvenient facts and asking me difficult questions!" what do I earn having a discussion with you? Words like fuckwit, idiotic,... for having a different shade of opinion on what is in the best interest of the UK! I just took the factoid right out of your mouth and came to a different conclusion. And it's not the implicit conclusion that these 53% households you mentioned are dominated by lazy benefit queens but perhaps the simple fact that they do not earn enough! Inequality too strong.
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Post by thorshairspray on Aug 11, 2023 7:33:08 GMT
You treat the UK exactly the same way Arvid and Xel treat Israel. That's bc in both countries there are now worrying political landslides.
What started before Brexit and just keeps going on is the fact that there are groups of think tanks and rich donors permanently swinging a wrecking ball against classic British institutions. In the game they play level for level (Brexit was a level, leavings ECHR is a level, special investment zones will be next level) the final level boss will be the nation itself as they regard its pure existence (that needs taxes) as theft of their assets! An unregulated landscape for anarcho capitalism is their end game. Sovereignty, the sugar pill sovereignty! But not for you, for them! This is what Arron Banks (a name that should be familiar to you, if not start reading the Brexit thread) tweeted this very night targeting next level enemies As a person who used to love British culture I am deeply worried. If you want to call me 'Anglophobe' for my voice then I can live with that. I also learned to live in an EU without the UK. But seeing a war of wildhog capitalism against nationhood is wrecking me in a similar way as Russia attacking Ukraine is. In case that last statement seems too strong to you - Arron Banks himself said in 2017 that Ukraine is to Russia what the Isle of Wight is to the UK... What total bollocks. Justify your hatred all you like, but we all see it.
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Post by tickingmask on Aug 11, 2023 7:40:11 GMT
I just took the factoid right out of your mouth and came to a different conclusion. And it's not the implicit conclusion that these 53% households you mentioned are dominated by lazy benefit queens but perhaps the simple fact that they do not earn enough! Inequality too strong. Or the conclusion could be that we are simply turning into a benefits culture, where every government policy is discussed in terms of how it affects the poorest of the population like the rest of us don't matter, and where not-so-poor people are taking the rational decision that there is no point is slogging their guts out to hand over a large chunk of their wages to the government when they can get free healthcare, free education, generous triple-locked state pensions, heating allowances and all the other good things in life without having to do any work, be productive at all, or contribute a single penny! I even started a thread about this not that long ago. Whatever the reason, it nevertheless still serves as an adequate counter-argument to your idiotic claim that 'the new UK works for the upper 2% only'. Bottom 53%, more like!
(Edit): Oh, and what you earn having a discussion with me is that I take the time and trouble to point out to you whenever you say paralysingly stupid things. This is doing you a favour! Others might just let you wallow in your own ignorance.
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Post by mowlick on Aug 11, 2023 7:57:04 GMT
Nobby is on the dole.
If the UK were still in the EU, the British would be paying billions of euros so that he and the rest of the bottom 2% of Germans could sit on their arses and scrounge off their betters
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Post by notoriousnobbi on Aug 11, 2023 9:12:13 GMT
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Post by yggdrasil on Aug 11, 2023 11:55:44 GMT
This sounds like nobbi-speak for "Stop annoying me with inconvenient facts and asking me difficult questions!" what do I earn having a discussion with you? Words like fuckwit, idiotic,... for having a different shade of opinion on what is in the best interest of the UK! I just took the factoid right out of your mouth and came to a different conclusion. And it's not the implicit conclusion that these 53% households you mentioned are dominated by lazy benefit queens but perhaps the simple fact that they do not earn enough! Inequality too strong. I still think that with people like your good self who cannot get over the fact that other people see the EU for it's faults which are many as well as it's positives that are many too, you correlate the leaving with everything bad that happens in the UK in exactly the same way that the Brexit headbangers (probably no more than 10% of the electorate) who refuse to see any link between Brexit and parts of the economic downturn. Neither views are right, I firmly believe that had the various ins and outs of the EU and Brexit been fully explained to the people and a non binary vote of various options given to the people then there would have been a huge majority for leaving but retaining a customs union to the benefits of both parties. You need to move on though, a democratic vote was held and it was up to the public to educate themselves in the absense of intelligent debate, whether they did or not is irrelevant now, it's done and dusted. And don't pretend for a minute that if Germany wasn't making nigh on a hundred billion Euros a year out of the EU and was instead losing money that there wouldn't likely be a "Gerexit" in the pipeline.
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Post by yggdrasil on Aug 11, 2023 12:39:27 GMT
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Aug 11, 2023 14:04:51 GMT
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Post by Carl LaFong on Aug 11, 2023 17:00:25 GMT
I don't oppose the idea of putting asylum seekers on barges like this, and indeed some of those interviewed said they were quite happy with their accommodation and the facilities there, but these dopey Tory cunts simply cannot do anything right, can they?! Roll on the next election.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Aug 11, 2023 18:47:08 GMT
I don't oppose the idea of putting asylum seekers on barges like this, and indeed some of those interviewed said they were quite happy with their accommodation and the facilities there, but these dopey Tory cunts simply cannot do anything right, can they?! Roll on the next election. I'm okay with the barges as well (as long as there is no shore access) - but when Labour gets in, they'll be scrapped and we get ghettoes and shit people. Crime against us. Look at Paris. So not roll on the next election.
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Post by yggdrasil on Aug 12, 2023 9:57:56 GMT
I don't oppose the idea of putting asylum seekers on barges like this, and indeed some of those interviewed said they were quite happy with their accommodation and the facilities there, but these dopey Tory cunts simply cannot do anything right, can they?! Roll on the next election. I don't either. I think the rooms have en suite showers and there are buses to take them into town communal areas/facilities etc. You just have to make sure from a safety level that the numbers are kept reasonable for each facility and that basic things like not having deadly bacteria swimming around in the water and air supplies are maintained. How hard can that be? Most of this problem goes away with enough staff to make quick, educated decisions on asylum claims though, 13 years into Conservative rule and it takes us 18 months to decide compared to a European average of 9 months, everything with this government has been about short sighted cuts that cost a damn site more down the road. From policing numbers to nursing numbers, it all comes down to short termism and trying to look good while decimating services, well the results of those stupid decisions are now here for us all to see.
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Post by nostromo on Aug 14, 2023 9:48:34 GMT
I don't oppose the idea of putting asylum seekers on barges like this, and indeed some of those interviewed said they were quite happy with their accommodation and the facilities there, but these dopey Tory cunts simply cannot do anything right, can they?! Roll on the next election. I'm okay with the barges as well (as long as there is no shore access) - but when Labour gets in, they'll be scrapped and we get ghettoes and shit people. Crime against us. Look at Paris. So not roll on the next election. Even if the inumane barge was fit for purpose and fully operative, there wouldn't be enough room on board 1 barge to fill the amount of asylum seekers arriving into the UK in one single day.
It's a ridiculous, cruel, floating prison.....but I guess that's why you and others approve of it.
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Post by notoriousnobbi on Aug 14, 2023 13:04:50 GMT
Even if the inumane barge was fit for purpose and fully operative, there wouldn't be enough room on board 1 barge to fill the amount of asylum seekers arriving into the UK in one single day. It's a ridiculous, cruel, floating prison.....but I guess that's why you and others approve of it.
A perfect (pseudo) -solution! It's a manifestation of symbolic cruelty and fills the bags of those who sold the prison barge to the government.
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Post by nostromo on Aug 14, 2023 13:15:32 GMT
Even if the inumane barge was fit for purpose and fully operative, there wouldn't be enough room on board 1 barge to fill the amount of asylum seekers arriving into the UK in one single day. It's a ridiculous, cruel, floating prison.....but I guess that's why you and others approve of it.
A perfect (pseudo) -solution! It's a manifestation of symbolic cruelty and fills the bags of those who sold the prison barge to the government.
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Post by nostromo on Aug 14, 2023 14:17:29 GMT
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